@meratrix how do you know they ain't?

well I got news for you, the penis is a fucking vagina

nope

These are just the worst possible outcomes of feeding their gender dysphoria.

I got news for you. That's fucking wrong.

@EmptyE If they tell me. If they don’t tell me, that’s their fault.

This is what you asked me for. Don't attack me for giving you the worst outcome.

oof

got em

we are all females in the womb at first

The penis is a mutated vagina

no

yes

What did they mean by this?

until we inherit the y chromosome and get a shot of testosterone that changes the female brain pattern to the male brain pattern

both the vagina and penis grow from the same undetermined organ

thats biology

I dunno. Alot of that just genuinely sounds like trying to impose a world view on these people.

I'm not even going to give Hooty the benefit of my attention.

And I don't peddle in that

At least EE is interested in some good faith interaction.

The ovaries descend and become the testicles and the clitoris becomes a penis

Only reason im here

"The penis is a mutated vagina" is an extremely simplistic way to look at it and is ultimately wrong

There is a subjective worldview on what is the best treatment to mental difficulties

@Deleted User That organ is entirely non-functioning until the XX or XY kicks in, it is not a vagina.

Would you say that medicating and psychologically treating schizophrenia imposing out world view on them?

It’s the beginnings of what could be either a penis or vagina.

And if @meratrix is claiming the jury is completly in on how to treat gender dysphoria, well I think thats bullshit

Especially paranoid schizophrenia.

Nope

Bepis and vagene are built from the same components vaguely

it's literally the same body part and we have nipples

Well, suicide rates post-transition show no change.

Which is why gender reassignment works because they just push all the components around

@EmptyE I never fucking said that, but phycological treatment has shown to be far more effective at actually preventing suicide in those with gender dysphoria.

so what you consider not a vagina really is one

But if I told a guy at the pub I think hes schizo and should get treatment, and then stopped allowing his position to be entertained

They require psychological help.

thats imposing