@MaikuPens we can draw easy lines between delusions and practical risks there. What are the practitical risks of living a life as not your biology?

so if you have a sex change, are you female then?

@meratrix so a request must be helpful to the person to be honoured?

why not? You look like one

your biology changed

we've already been over that

^

The practical risks are increases in the general feeling of unease in your own body, causing even more harmful psychological "this body isn't mine" type of psychological issues.

^

It's possible that suicides stem from this.

@EmptyE No, but if there not going to seek actual phycological help, then I will not oblige them bitching about it. And phycologists cost way fucking less than transitioning as well.

so breasts and a vagina are not female?

@MaikuPens Thats alot of moral highground your throwing at these people bro

so what you saying is...

@meratrix how do you know they ain't?

well I got news for you, the penis is a fucking vagina

nope

These are just the worst possible outcomes of feeding their gender dysphoria.

I got news for you. That's fucking wrong.

@EmptyE If they tell me. If they don’t tell me, that’s their fault.

This is what you asked me for. Don't attack me for giving you the worst outcome.

oof

got em

we are all females in the womb at first

The penis is a mutated vagina

no

yes

What did they mean by this?

until we inherit the y chromosome and get a shot of testosterone that changes the female brain pattern to the male brain pattern

both the vagina and penis grow from the same undetermined organ

thats biology

I dunno. Alot of that just genuinely sounds like trying to impose a world view on these people.

I'm not even going to give Hooty the benefit of my attention.

And I don't peddle in that

At least EE is interested in some good faith interaction.

The ovaries descend and become the testicles and the clitoris becomes a penis

Only reason im here

"The penis is a mutated vagina" is an extremely simplistic way to look at it and is ultimately wrong

There is a subjective worldview on what is the best treatment to mental difficulties

@Deleted User That organ is entirely non-functioning until the XX or XY kicks in, it is not a vagina.