@M4Gunner Data kind of suggests it does

You can't lie to yourself beneficially. You can only convince yourself to believe something which benefits you.

@Thomas the Sowell Train [USA] same thing isnt it?

no

one you know is a lie, one you actually believe

their sanity benefits

@EmptyE I’d make them wait till age 18 anyway, at which point go to college, get a job, then pay for it.

@M4Gunner 60% of people who transition report greator life satisfactotion post, 80% report greator physical satisfaction with themselves

they have the same suicide rate

gender dysphoria and other factors cause a high suicide rate in trans

thats fair. Im honestly not coming at this from a "YOU MUST" way

For instance, you can lie to yourself that God is smiling upon you when you know you are awash in sin, and you will torment yourself. However, you can also truly believe that God wants you to be better and is on your side in redeeming yourself from your sins, and that belief will help you do so.

they aren't lying to themselves

At the end of the day it's all mental illness

so your cool with them pretending @M4Gunner but you won't play along? at all?

So?

they are being honest about things

lets say they are. Why not just refer to them as they'd prefer? You aren't a shrink, you can't change their mind

But doesn't that mean you can't be friends with them?

there is a lot of social pressure and stigma

to conform

Because you refuse to give them the common decency of referring to them as they'd prefer

it is not a mental illness

if some dude referred to me exclusively by a different name, I wouldn't be mates with them

It is literally a mental illness though

So you'd rathar exclude perfectly reasonable traps from common respect because of SJWs?

I'm the only person in here that likes traps

No one deserves respect. It is earned

Do you greet strangers with "Fuck you cunt"?

why not?

I think that if someone wants to live as the opposite gender, but realizes fully that they are not actually that gender, that is fine and I will respect them, but I maintain that to believe you are the gender which your biology determines you are not, is mental illness.

Not making that claim. Saying Common Decency has a minimal level of respect we put out in the world

Richard Nixon can be called Dick Dixon lol

That minimum level of respect to me, also suggests I should refer to people I don't dislike as they prefer to be referred to.

why do you identify as male?

where'd I say right dickhead?

I don't "identify" as a male.

I'm just conscious enough to know I am one.

why do you think you are a male?

stupid question

pedantic af