Message from @Hyddraigon

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2018-05-17 12:40:09 UTC  

like, chane your views on it, it might be a mental illness

2018-05-17 12:40:12 UTC  

"do you think you are a male because of your biology"

2018-05-17 12:40:15 UTC  

I assume you mean

2018-05-17 12:40:19 UTC  

In which case, yes I do.

2018-05-17 12:40:21 UTC  

Your point?

2018-05-17 12:40:54 UTC  

@EmptyE It is a mental illness.

2018-05-17 12:41:02 UTC  

male
adj. Of, relating to, or designating the sex that has organs to produce spermatozoa for fertilizing ova.

2018-05-17 12:41:05 UTC  

I just don't see why the culture bullshit should stop me from treating a seemingly decent individual I may meet, as they'd like to be treated

2018-05-17 12:41:08 UTC  

yeah, I got the thing that does that stuff

2018-05-17 12:41:35 UTC  

@EmptyE It doesn’t but if they’re gonna bitch at me all day I won’t oblige them.

2018-05-17 12:41:49 UTC  

It's fine if you want to use their pronouns, although I think you doing so is ultimately harmful.

2018-05-17 12:42:02 UTC  

so it has nothing to do with how you feel inside, just how you physically are?

2018-05-17 12:42:05 UTC  

The worst thing one could do is make it illegal to do otherwise.

2018-05-17 12:42:10 UTC  

@meratrix and I started this by prefacing request, not demand. Not my fault you guys are bringing all your baggage along with that

2018-05-17 12:42:43 UTC  

Ya see Hooty, if I identified as a rich person, does that make me one because of what's "inside"?

2018-05-17 12:42:57 UTC  

Hooty, with all due respect...
***What kind of fucking argument is that?***
Someone can have a wang and identify as such. If you throw gender dysphoria into the mix then it gets complicated.

2018-05-17 12:43:01 UTC  

@MaikuPens why harmful?

2018-05-17 12:43:02 UTC  

Or is the world as it is?

2018-05-17 12:43:06 UTC  

If your gender "inside" is male or female, then fine

2018-05-17 12:43:07 UTC  

I wouldn't expect you to tell a schizophrenic that the voices really are speaking to them, or telling a paranoid person that the CIA really is watching them.

2018-05-17 12:43:15 UTC  

If your gender "inside" is a toaster then fuck off ❤

2018-05-17 12:43:29 UTC  

@EmptyE There’s no “baggage”, I just have read the research on the best course action for those with gender dysphoria, and a physical transition and pronouns do jack shit.

2018-05-17 12:43:37 UTC  

You're feeding a person's general incapability of accepting reality.

2018-05-17 12:43:48 UTC  

We keep feeding the troll

2018-05-17 12:43:52 UTC  

@MaikuPens we can draw easy lines between delusions and practical risks there. What are the practitical risks of living a life as not your biology?

2018-05-17 12:44:04 UTC  

so if you have a sex change, are you female then?

2018-05-17 12:44:17 UTC  

@meratrix so a request must be helpful to the person to be honoured?

2018-05-17 12:44:25 UTC  

why not? You look like one

2018-05-17 12:44:33 UTC  

your biology changed

2018-05-17 12:44:35 UTC  

we've already been over that

2018-05-17 12:44:42 UTC  

^

2018-05-17 12:44:43 UTC  

The practical risks are increases in the general feeling of unease in your own body, causing even more harmful psychological "this body isn't mine" type of psychological issues.

2018-05-17 12:44:53 UTC  

^

2018-05-17 12:44:56 UTC  

It's possible that suicides stem from this.

2018-05-17 12:45:17 UTC  

@EmptyE No, but if there not going to seek actual phycological help, then I will not oblige them bitching about it. And phycologists cost way fucking less than transitioning as well.

2018-05-17 12:45:32 UTC  

so breasts and a vagina are not female?

2018-05-17 12:45:45 UTC  

@MaikuPens Thats alot of moral highground your throwing at these people bro

2018-05-17 12:45:48 UTC  

so what you saying is...

2018-05-17 12:45:58 UTC  

@meratrix how do you know they ain't?

2018-05-17 12:46:11 UTC  

well I got news for you, the penis is a fucking vagina

2018-05-17 12:46:16 UTC  

nope