Message from @Thomas the Sowell Train [USA]
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If they demand it then no
are you straight?
Who gets to decide that?
@EmptyE If they actually make the effort to be that change, than I will oblige, cause they’ll look like it anyway, if their just bitching, then no.
exactly
what constitutes effort?
actually transitioning
and @M4Gunner if lying to yourself has proven psychological ebenefits, why not abide it?
@meratrix sometimes theres a high cost barrier that cant be reached for some time with that
You can't lie to yourself beneficially. You can only convince yourself to believe something which benefits you.
@Thomas the Sowell Train [USA] same thing isnt it?
no
one you know is a lie, one you actually believe
their sanity benefits
@EmptyE I’d make them wait till age 18 anyway, at which point go to college, get a job, then pay for it.
@M4Gunner 60% of people who transition report greator life satisfactotion post, 80% report greator physical satisfaction with themselves
they have the same suicide rate
gender dysphoria and other factors cause a high suicide rate in trans
thats fair. Im honestly not coming at this from a "YOU MUST" way
For instance, you can lie to yourself that God is smiling upon you when you know you are awash in sin, and you will torment yourself. However, you can also truly believe that God wants you to be better and is on your side in redeeming yourself from your sins, and that belief will help you do so.
they aren't lying to themselves
At the end of the day it's all mental illness
so your cool with them pretending @M4Gunner but you won't play along? at all?
So?
they are being honest about things
lets say they are. Why not just refer to them as they'd prefer? You aren't a shrink, you can't change their mind
But doesn't that mean you can't be friends with them?
there is a lot of social pressure and stigma
to conform
Because you refuse to give them the common decency of referring to them as they'd prefer
it is not a mental illness
if some dude referred to me exclusively by a different name, I wouldn't be mates with them
It is literally a mental illness though
So you'd rathar exclude perfectly reasonable traps from common respect because of SJWs?
I'm the only person in here that likes traps
No one deserves respect. It is earned
Do you greet strangers with "Fuck you cunt"?
why not?
I think that if someone wants to live as the opposite gender, but realizes fully that they are not actually that gender, that is fine and I will respect them, but I maintain that to believe you are the gender which your biology determines you are not, is mental illness.
Not making that claim. Saying Common Decency has a minimal level of respect we put out in the world