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2017-07-25 01:32:06 UTC

The police know damn well what a clusterfuck they're going to have on their hands trying to keep this thing "secured" so by suggesting passes they can say either "the organizers dropped the ball and let passes get into the wrong hands" or if we don't take their suggestion "we suggested means to secure the event, but the organizers declined"

2017-07-25 01:32:10 UTC

Not offense to them, I know most of these guys personally but I'll tell them the same thing

2017-07-25 01:32:15 UTC

Another idea best discussed amongst coordinators and people actually involved in the security and organization of the event. I donโ€™t get this daily ritual of fielding ideas to the general channel of the event discord server.

2017-07-25 01:32:19 UTC

I mean if youre just handing out passes how does that even keep them out? That seems like an invitation IN

2017-07-25 01:32:40 UTC

Because @V I T A L I T Y sometimes ideas reach deaf ears

2017-07-25 01:32:48 UTC
2017-07-25 01:33:41 UTC

@V I T A L I T Y many voices can make many solutions friend-o.

2017-07-25 01:33:57 UTC

^^

2017-07-25 01:34:03 UTC

This is for our people after all?

2017-07-25 01:34:07 UTC

Not for some e celebs

2017-07-25 01:34:20 UTC

We're democratic authoritarians.

2017-07-25 01:34:30 UTC

@Gavius Corvus Good point. This is why I like to bring certain ideas to you guys first

2017-07-25 01:34:36 UTC

I thought we were fascists

2017-07-25 01:34:56 UTC

@Athena Marie considerate fascists.

2017-07-25 01:35:04 UTC

Maybe we shouldnt do passes bc it might put the onus for misbehavior on us

2017-07-25 01:35:06 UTC

Fascists can be Democratic. It's an ideology.

2017-07-25 01:35:12 UTC

Or something..

2017-07-25 01:35:12 UTC

@Athena Marie thank you. Exactly

2017-07-25 01:35:16 UTC

^^

2017-07-25 01:37:05 UTC

@MadDimension just do passes for 10-12. That will be perfect. It will give us some breathing room to get setup and establish our perimeter.

2017-07-25 01:37:25 UTC

Aren't people talking about getting there at 8am?

2017-07-25 01:37:57 UTC

Theres no need if the cops are going to keep the park clear.

2017-07-25 01:38:23 UTC

if

2017-07-25 01:38:26 UTC

@Kurt There are tons who are coming early to put their ass on the line to make sure this happens. There should be no obstacles

2017-07-25 01:38:41 UTC

If they don't then Nationalist Front groups are willing to clear them out

2017-07-25 01:39:00 UTC

I can't speak for others though.

2017-07-25 01:39:07 UTC

How many passes are going out and when are they being distributed? I know we from Oklahoma are getting their early.

2017-07-25 01:39:07 UTC

@RCO Nick-TX those people will have passes ofc

2017-07-25 01:39:12 UTC

Nationalist Front is who is doing it.

2017-07-25 01:39:28 UTC

We know all the people who are planning on coming early...

2017-07-25 01:39:36 UTC

Oh do you?

2017-07-25 01:39:38 UTC

@Kurt what about stragglers?

2017-07-25 01:40:29 UTC

If people show up early and can't get into the park they're going to be prey for the few antifa and blm. Who show up early if everyone has to shuffle feet until noon...

2017-07-25 01:40:31 UTC

I am coming from CA, arriving in Richmand at 11:40, then am heading to the park.

2017-07-25 01:40:56 UTC

@RCO Nick-TX why would there be stragglers from the setup crew?

2017-07-25 01:41:25 UTC

I'm pretty sure that there will be others arriving a little late as well.

2017-07-25 01:41:29 UTC

Putting up obstacles to attendance is a bad idea. We need all we can get.

2017-07-25 01:41:58 UTC

@Kurt There are always stragglers

2017-07-25 01:42:00 UTC

We are talking about having a perimeter while we get setup.

2017-07-25 01:42:09 UTC

Not for the whole event

2017-07-25 01:42:28 UTC

And the perimeter can handle access

2017-07-25 01:42:30 UTC

If the set up crew assumes they won't need help clearing the park in lieu of polices than I suppose we can sit back

2017-07-25 01:42:55 UTC

So at noon it's open up to literally everyone?

2017-07-25 01:43:04 UTC

We cant extreme vet that situation.

2017-07-25 01:43:09 UTC

@RCO Nick-TX legally we cannot do that.

2017-07-25 01:43:13 UTC

We don't know who the hell those people are.

2017-07-25 01:43:54 UTC

It's a much less sticky situation if the police clear the park out for us.

2017-07-25 01:44:38 UTC

*IF*

2017-07-25 01:44:51 UTC

We can't assume they're our guys. Either they'll let anyone in or they'll restrict our guys from getting in.

2017-07-25 01:44:58 UTC

And that's IF

2017-07-25 01:45:09 UTC

@Kurt We have the permit. We can control access all we want.

2017-07-25 01:45:47 UTC

I dont think it gives us exclusive access. I think it just gives us permission to setup equipment and stuff

2017-07-25 01:46:09 UTC

The men conducting security and risking life and limb are more equipped to handle access than some cloistered VIPs

2017-07-25 01:46:38 UTC

I'll press the police to clear the park for us prior to say 11:40 am

2017-07-25 01:46:43 UTC

Sure, if they want to go to jail

2017-07-25 01:47:12 UTC

@MadDimension If the event starts at noon, we are going to need at least an hour to setup.

2017-07-25 01:47:29 UTC

We have radios. There is such thing as communication and simple white intelligence and agency

2017-07-25 01:48:29 UTC

So, considering a lot of our people are going to be arriving early, what does the police clearing the park look like? Everyone, including ourguys gets removed?

2017-07-25 01:48:57 UTC

Is there anyone safe to pregame not in the park?

2017-07-25 01:49:16 UTC

I'm lost now. The problem statement is that we are afraid that antifa will camp out in the park to prevent us from setting up, correct? If so we pretty much have two options. 1. Get the police to clear the park and control access until we get setup and ready. 2. Commit felony assault if the antifa wont move.

2017-07-25 01:49:39 UTC

Here is the deal:

The police HAVE to leave a portion of the park open to the "public" (including Antifa). The best possible deal we could strike is to give them an area as small as 10'x10' or a single pathway from one end of the park to the other

2017-07-25 01:50:51 UTC

How many obese antifa can they fit in a 10x10 square?

2017-07-25 01:50:58 UTC

@Kurt Them I'm assuming you and your guys won't be helping with security and trying to ensure the event actually happens?

2017-07-25 01:51:10 UTC

Antifa ARE NOT going to be allowed to camp out in the park

2017-07-25 01:51:46 UTC

@RCO Nick-TX I do not speak for any group.

2017-07-25 01:52:16 UTC

What is our access to the police for communication going to be like in the midst of all of this? Generally speaking, the two sides should be relatively easy to distinguish, and point out interlopers to the cops.

2017-07-25 01:53:03 UTC

I am just pointing out that we should take the option that is the safest and most legal. If the police are willing to clear the park for us, let them.

2017-07-25 01:53:34 UTC

There will almost 200 police in the park. We have a lot of say in the safest way to deploy them

2017-07-25 01:53:39 UTC

@Kurt Yea of course. And if they don't?

2017-07-25 01:54:20 UTC

Then all bets are off

2017-07-25 01:55:11 UTC

But if the are making the offer, then why not take it and plan on attempting to clear the park ourselves as a contingency.

2017-07-25 01:58:52 UTC

You put the contingency plan in place in advance. We need to be proactive not reactive. Also if we are not willing to take some risks for what we believe I don't know what to say. This isn't a movement for the risk adverse.

2017-07-25 02:00:58 UTC

We were talking about weather is was a good idea to have passes at all. Not if the cops say they can control access and fail to do it.

2017-07-25 02:01:32 UTC

If they say they are going to do something, and they don't we are in a berkely situation.

2017-07-25 02:01:51 UTC

You operate on the assumption the police will not do their job, not the other way around

2017-07-25 02:02:29 UTC

Yes I agree.

2017-07-25 02:02:43 UTC

But that wasnt what we were talking about lol

2017-07-25 02:04:23 UTC

The thing about the passes is that at best, we get passes in the hands of a fraction of the attendees, and have a bottleneck in the middle of an already chaotic situation while we try to check passes for hundreds of people. It seems like a lot of extra complication for not much improvement on the situation.

2017-07-25 02:04:52 UTC

^^^

2017-07-25 02:05:08 UTC

^^^^

2017-07-25 02:05:09 UTC

@Gavius Corvus the question on the table isn't about passes for the general attendance, but about passes for the setup crew between 10-12

2017-07-25 02:05:25 UTC

Well, how big does the setup crew have to be?

2017-07-25 02:05:49 UTC

Seems like something that could be done on the basis of Kessler or other VIP saying "hey, these 10 guys are here to help set up."

2017-07-25 02:05:56 UTC

The setup crew is irrelevant if you can't gain access to the damn park.

2017-07-25 02:06:01 UTC

By 10-12 the counter protesters will likely already be out in force.

2017-07-25 02:06:14 UTC

Ahh yes we must have the "VIP"s guide us

2017-07-25 02:06:19 UTC

They're all knowing

2017-07-25 02:06:19 UTC

And I feel that's generous. They'll probably be out a lot earlier.

2017-07-25 02:06:30 UTC

They can easily take the park

2017-07-25 02:06:41 UTC

This isnt' a conversation for the general chat

2017-07-25 02:06:43 UTC

Jesus fucking christ

2017-07-25 02:06:59 UTC

This is something you decide amongst the coordinators and leadership of the various groups and the nput out guidance

2017-07-25 02:07:09 UTC

YOu don't ask 500 people what they think the best way to run your event is

2017-07-25 02:07:21 UTC

^^ good point

2017-07-25 02:07:30 UTC

No, its fine. Just seeking different points of view

2017-07-25 02:07:39 UTC

He's trolling us.

2017-07-25 02:08:02 UTC

We arent getting anywhere at this point. So anyways, who has seen Dunkirk.

2017-07-25 02:08:21 UTC

@Hand Banana well where are these coordinators?

2017-07-25 02:08:30 UTC

>implying

2017-07-25 02:08:38 UTC

They disappear when there's a difficult question it seems

2017-07-25 02:09:02 UTC

It's tedious, especially when the event is just a mere few weeks away

2017-07-25 02:09:06 UTC

WHo knows dude

2017-07-25 02:09:16 UTC

and welcome to my world.

2017-07-25 02:09:24 UTC

A general doesn't ask all his riflemen the best way to win a war

2017-07-25 02:09:25 UTC

He tells them how.

2017-07-25 02:09:34 UTC

^^*

2017-07-25 02:09:41 UTC

Damn right

2017-07-25 02:09:42 UTC

^^^^^^

2017-07-25 02:09:49 UTC

100% agreed

2017-07-25 02:11:43 UTC

@Kurt agreed. Jason can't do everything either. Where is everyone?

2017-07-25 02:12:35 UTC

Everything is fine. We're doing something that's never been done before. Stop counter-signaling

2017-07-25 02:13:23 UTC

We're in the middle of a negotiation with police and the situation is developing. Personally, I like getting input from you guys

2017-07-25 02:13:47 UTC

@MadDimension delete the above honestly. This conversation should be had elsewhere

2017-07-25 02:13:47 UTC

I think we need a handshake.

2017-07-25 02:14:09 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321378710265659393/339228805799477250/image.jpg

2017-07-25 02:18:02 UTC

Don't give them every detail? Sperg. Ask for input on details. Sperg.

2017-07-25 02:18:13 UTC

I think people just like to sperg.

2017-07-25 02:19:03 UTC

Haven't you seen Varg's video on this? Autists are the master race.

2017-07-25 02:19:16 UTC

I get it. It's fun.

2017-07-25 02:20:56 UTC

Seriously where are the leaders other than Jason?

2017-07-25 02:24:54 UTC

eli is on the shoah right now

2017-07-25 02:25:09 UTC

i think there is another event coordinator but i dont remember who it is

2017-07-25 02:25:42 UTC

One got axed.

2017-07-25 02:25:51 UTC

@wyatt the frustration is that people have been asking him for information for days and just have been getting static.

2017-07-25 02:26:14 UTC

To be fair scandinavians were at one time vikings and did likely range accross the world. Its also evident that ancient northern europeans knew something about moving massive objects that the rest of the world didnt figure out for thousands of years. Thus the comparison to the kangz nonsense which is largely unverifiable is less than fair. Not to say varg doesn't say silly things from time to time.

2017-07-25 02:26:31 UTC

I don't give a fuck what podcast Eli is on. We need serious leadership. Jason can't do everything. There are to many moving parts.

2017-07-25 02:27:16 UTC

everyone needs to chill out a bit. we are hearding cats with air cans. If you think its crazy now just wait until a week out.

2017-07-25 02:27:49 UTC

the good news is this

2017-07-25 02:27:54 UTC

we all know where we are going lol

2017-07-25 02:28:02 UTC

@wyatt I can't co-ordinate logistics a week out dude.

2017-07-25 02:28:12 UTC

its a good thing we are not a week out

2017-07-25 02:29:02 UTC

Yeah, we should have started this process a month ago.

2017-07-25 02:30:42 UTC

When are the Alt Right elections for our official dictator?

2017-07-25 02:31:17 UTC

>implying elections
I thought the runners up had a battle to the death

2017-07-25 02:31:23 UTC

^^^

2017-07-25 02:31:24 UTC

@FaฯŸh - MI well that's a hell of a dichotomy

2017-07-25 02:31:48 UTC

I'm pretty much doing everything and things are going fine. Relax.

2017-07-25 02:31:49 UTC

I thought spencer was our Fuhrer?

2017-07-25 02:31:50 UTC

>implying implications

2017-07-25 02:32:20 UTC

Kessler for Chancellor 2020

2017-07-25 02:32:45 UTC

The truth is most people do not follow through on things. I 100% promise you guys that I will.

2017-07-25 02:33:09 UTC

All of you in the Discord play a role in the leadership by adding your knowledge and wisdom

2017-07-25 02:33:19 UTC

dont overwhelm yourself man

2017-07-25 02:33:24 UTC

Who kicked Americana?

2017-07-25 02:33:35 UTC

^

2017-07-25 02:33:39 UTC

If people say they are going to do things in this movement and then don'tthey should be shoahed tbh.

2017-07-25 02:33:53 UTC

^^^

2017-07-25 02:33:57 UTC

Kessler for Chancellor? lol

2017-07-25 02:34:42 UTC

Not following through on promises is for niggers.

2017-07-25 02:35:07 UTC

We have great organizations like TWP, League, Vanguard, etc that are putting in a lot of work. This Discord is more about facilitating them to be their best on game day

2017-07-25 02:35:19 UTC

McCarthy for Head of the Levantine Removal Committee 2020

2017-07-25 02:35:38 UTC

Hmmmmm I wonder who from Vanguard has put in a lot of work ๐Ÿค”

2017-07-25 02:35:53 UTC

lol

2017-07-25 02:35:56 UTC

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321378710265659393/339234285284229123/image-16.jpg

2017-07-25 02:37:19 UTC

#WEMISSERIKA

2017-07-25 02:37:22 UTC

If I see someone spamming me 15 messages in my inbox talking shit and doing the same in 3 different channels I dont have time to deal with that

2017-07-25 02:39:29 UTC

If you're in a group, your group needs to send a rep to be on the weekly leadership call. If you've done that, and still are not getting information you need to talk to your rep. Our group is getting all the information we could possibly need.

2017-07-25 02:40:39 UTC

>not planning everything until the day before
What do you think we are, Fascists?

2017-07-25 02:40:59 UTC

Never heard of a weekly leadership calls. When are these?

2017-07-25 02:42:10 UTC

Should be another tomorrow night.

2017-07-25 02:43:14 UTC

I will attend. What time?

2017-07-25 02:43:30 UTC

8.

2017-07-25 02:44:04 UTC

Eastern I'm assuming

2017-07-25 02:44:10 UTC

Yes.

2017-07-25 02:44:21 UTC

@Wade Garrett I thought it was wednesday?

2017-07-25 02:44:27 UTC

or did it move again

2017-07-25 02:44:47 UTC

Last week's had to be moved. It's normally Tuesday.

2017-07-25 02:45:35 UTC

F

2017-07-25 02:45:54 UTC

I wont be home by then. I guess I shoudl install discord on my phone.

2017-07-25 02:47:20 UTC

^Yea you should. It'll be essential on the day of the rally.

2017-07-25 02:47:44 UTC

Setting up a burner is on my list of things to do

2017-07-25 02:47:51 UTC

just havent gotten around to it yet

2017-07-25 03:02:24 UTC

Damn what a thread

2017-07-25 03:08:38 UTC

Everyone wondering where all the other leaders are, and someone who mentioned people doing a podcast not being real leaders. It's true. People like Jason are doing the lions share of the work and it's mostly s thankless task

2017-07-25 03:09:35 UTC

How many likes can our newest guest speakers get?! ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321378710265659393/339242755710779402/image.jpg

2017-07-25 03:09:47 UTC

Lmao can you fucking imagine

2017-07-25 03:09:52 UTC

BAN THIS NIGROID!!!

2017-07-25 03:09:59 UTC

Lmfao!

2017-07-25 03:10:51 UTC

That would be funny if they showed up and started DR3ing

2017-07-25 03:12:19 UTC

@impotantpeople I'd like to report a possible she-boon infiltration by a user named @FashyPolack

2017-07-25 03:13:04 UTC

Tfw no nigger-hating @Athena Marie gf ๐Ÿ˜ž

2017-07-25 03:13:39 UTC

you dont find a redpilled gf. You make them

2017-07-25 03:13:47 UTC

^^

2017-07-25 03:14:01 UTC

All too true!

2017-07-25 03:17:21 UTC

@Frederick De Peyrens - VA Thanks. Exactly. I'm getting up every day and working on this like a 9-5.

2017-07-25 03:30:56 UTC

@MadDimension Hats off to you for the hard work you've put in. This will be historic.

2017-07-25 03:32:15 UTC

@FashyPolack "They're gonna build them ovens!"

"Mmmmm hmmmm"

"They're gonna fly those there helicopters way up high and drop em out!"

"Thas Rite!"

2017-07-25 03:33:02 UTC

@MadDimension Have forehead swastika tattoos been ruled out for deciding who gets in and who doesn't?

2017-07-25 03:34:28 UTC

Regarding wristbands or passes, in my opinion it doesn't need to be all encompassing. Official passes are marginally good optics, but not everyone needs a pass. It's just for show. Have everyone on the discord print out a "exclusive pass" (therefore a pass to get in isn't technically required) then let anyone who claims to be our guy in. There's no need to be a Nazi about it

2017-07-25 03:35:11 UTC

That horse has been beaten to death.

2017-07-25 03:35:22 UTC

Sorry I'm late

2017-07-25 03:36:40 UTC

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2017-07-25 03:36:48 UTC

@Kurt Why are you beating him!!!

2017-07-25 03:37:06 UTC

I was supposed to ride in on him to save the day!

2017-07-25 03:37:07 UTC

because im a sadist

2017-07-25 03:37:30 UTC

Did we ever get an official answer on Horseback Nationalism?

2017-07-25 03:38:32 UTC

Because I'm going to ride my horse if it's only a suggestion because I think it makes the most tactical sense and I'm going to keep telling everyone about my opinion on this matter anytime it comes up in anyway.

2017-07-25 03:39:16 UTC

That was actually one of the few things we did get an official answer on lol.

2017-07-25 03:40:37 UTC

Ok. I guess I will scroll up. I had to watch kids tonight and couldn't keep up with all 67 channels in this server while feeding them and putting them to bed and watching 8 other servers

2017-07-25 03:43:56 UTC

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2017-07-25 03:44:17 UTC

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2017-07-25 03:44:42 UTC

@Tyrone The answer is that it probably is not a great idea

2017-07-25 03:44:44 UTC

Current forecast models around the time of the event are showing lower chance of precipitation and at-or-below-normal temps

2017-07-25 03:45:24 UTC

>implying NOAA is ever accurate this far out

2017-07-25 03:45:37 UTC

>implying NOAA is accurate period

2017-07-25 03:45:59 UTC

they are generally pretty accurate when they can look out the window.

2017-07-25 03:46:22 UTC

Only if the union janitor is working that day and cleans it

2017-07-25 03:48:40 UTC

imagine if it rained on antifa hair

2017-07-25 03:52:14 UTC

Wait is it going to rain?

2017-07-25 03:52:18 UTC

Should I bring a raincoat?

2017-07-25 03:52:29 UTC

Or better yet just not wear a shirt?

2017-07-25 03:52:49 UTC

Abs may or may not be friggin ripped but im not skinnyfat

2017-07-25 04:02:59 UTC

Is NBC/General Electric currently run by a Jew?

2017-07-25 04:07:01 UTC

If you have to ask, the answer is probably yes.

2017-07-25 04:08:39 UTC

@Spaceman (DSB) way too early to know if it's going to rain or not but the current models are showing below-normal precipitation for the period around the event

2017-07-25 04:16:14 UTC

NBC is owned by Comcast

2017-07-25 04:16:20 UTC

Comcast CEO is a Jew

2017-07-25 04:16:29 UTC

As well as several baord members

2017-07-25 04:16:30 UTC

Midatlantic this time of year is like Florida, rains every day around 7pm

2017-07-25 04:16:36 UTC

Both companies are owned by Comcast, which is extremely Hebraic. Their CEO is (((Brian L. Roberts))) and VP is (((David L. Cohen)))

2017-07-25 04:16:38 UTC

NBC's CEO is (((Robert Greenblat)))

2017-07-25 04:17:43 UTC

GE has Goyish leadership at the moment but answers to Comcast, thus <:jude:321787268312465418>

2017-07-25 04:17:48 UTC
2017-07-25 08:35:17 UTC

@MadDimension Its also worth pointing out NBC News is currently operated at the organizational level by (((David Rhodes))). They are up and down the chain of command.

2017-07-25 08:56:41 UTC

@MadDimension you have to consider the possibility that Antifa would somehow get a hold the pass through a shill in here

2017-07-25 10:12:12 UTC

Can't you just have police rope off a safe space for people who look like they haven't showered in a week?

2017-07-25 11:52:50 UTC

Anyone not wearing a white polo should immediately be shot by riot police.

2017-07-25 12:11:56 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321378710265659393/339379239595802625/received_1620131754666646.jpeg

2017-07-25 12:12:09 UTC

I feel sorry for her tbh

2017-07-25 12:13:38 UTC

Rally's aren't the place for personal info... Especially this large of one

2017-07-25 12:15:15 UTC

Antis are there for info

2017-07-25 12:15:39 UTC

Anti to catch people who stray from the path

2017-07-25 12:22:05 UTC
2017-07-25 12:22:43 UTC

And so my search for a wife continues

2017-07-25 12:22:57 UTC

Second Jew this year for me. Sad!

2017-07-25 12:25:03 UTC

Oosh, what are the odds of that

2017-07-25 12:30:40 UTC

About 2%

2017-07-25 12:31:13 UTC

@Hand Banana Maybe you should stop hitting on chicks at the Kosher Deli?

2017-07-25 12:31:51 UTC

I'm too angry to handle bantz

2017-07-25 12:33:11 UTC

At least she told you. You're going to have to start forcing women to submit to ancestry tests.

2017-07-25 12:33:26 UTC

She's such a nice girl too

2017-07-25 12:33:52 UTC

What a waste.

2017-07-25 12:33:59 UTC

Her parents will burn in hell for miscegenation

2017-07-25 12:35:06 UTC

and yeah I had @lurlina | WV 's ran I was convinced she was a gypsie

2017-07-25 12:35:29 UTC

Truly. I hate miscegenation so much more after actually talking to mixed race people about their identity. It's just really sad.

2017-07-25 12:35:48 UTC

Did you ask which half was jewish?

2017-07-25 12:35:52 UTC

"She's such a nice girl" ...
That's your problem

2017-07-25 12:36:26 UTC

Maybe just strategic parts of the midsection....

2017-07-25 12:36:47 UTC

Why is it a problem to think someone who is half jewish is nice?

2017-07-25 12:36:57 UTC

In all seriousness, it sucks

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