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@โฉ โ Valka โ โฉ And Europe don't let up, because the Greeks are being forced to go back into the European Union, over a name dispute.
So, if Europe had an army, it would be horrid.
https://youtu.be/xVAmpn3ve60
Ireland isnโt in austerity.
Not being able to be hammered 24/7 is considered to be severe austerity by the Irish people. @Weez
If Boris finds a way to 'fix' the Irish border problem in three weeks, I'll consider him a great man. Don't have my hopes up though<:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>
Here's a thought: give NI back to the Republic where it belongs. DAB
or just subsume RoI into UK
doubledab
Or maybe let both entities join a bigger state-like institution so that there is no problem on the border?
Dab III, the Dabbening
u talking about EU, nibba?
wtf? cuz misery loves company?
selfish bastard
I am a woman. Fuck your birthstrike. WHY CAN YOU NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT PUBLIC TRANSPORT BEING SO FUCKING HIGH????? BUNCH OF NARCASSISTIC BITCHES
Now to the debate part: If these women are so depressed, why are they travelling around the world, to tell us they're being like nuns and chastising themselves.
Back in the day we had nunnaries- what happened to them? Maybe these women need to become nuns?
I mean, I feel sorry for men because, there is no pleasing a woman like that. No matter how big your cock is, or how intellectually honored you are. These women will reject you because they think that the climate, is balls. I know it is balls. I know it is crap. Be nuns! Wear a chasty belt but, most of all get with the rest of us who are trying to get on in life. You are so out of touch you belong in a nunnery.
Men have never been to that point where they want to disown their own gender. So much so that they want more monasteries! It is absurd.
Breaking News: men and women are different and deserve to be treated differently
Breaking News: ETBrooD was just metoo'd
Breaking News: ETBrooD just committed suicide
In other news: woman who's feelings were hurt by the deceased ETBrooD's misogynistic statements publishes book titled "how I was raped by the male gaze"
Also: women are the real victims of ETBrooD's suicide
@ETBrooD I find you suiciding yourself offensive. Men are more successful at suiciding themselves than women. You should have failed in the name of equality.
MMM, sorry Bernie bros, there is no war.
@Weez Play the game! We are meant to morn you because you are male priveliged and you are going to commit suicide. We all want to weep over you and then blame climate change instead of the fact, we women came out with a lame arse excuse not to rodger you, or to play pokey holey with. Damn it, it is the end of the privelidged race! They are killing themselves. WE NEED TO FEEL PITY!!
Italy, be prepared for a recession bigger than you can ever imagine.
Austerity cuts for your own people, and no money for schools and universities.
https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/04/matteo-salvini-replaced-by-migration-specialist-in-new-italy-coalition?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fworld%2F2019%2Fsep%2F04%2Fmatteo-salvini-replaced-by-migration-specialist-in-new-italy-coalition
It's been 10 year's since the last European Economic crash and yet, they've had a population increase of over 2.4 million migrants. Now, these are not your typical, literate university scholars whom are flying in to do ERASMUS. These are people whom went to Italy on a boat from Africa. Then, claim stuff when they get there. Yet, Italy want to make their population increase.
Yeah, standards and quality of life was about to improve with Salvini. I guarantee you.
https://www-euronews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.euronews.com/amp/2019/07/11/world-population-day-eu-population-increases-despite-more-deaths-being-recorded-than-birth?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQEKAFwAQ%3D%3D#aoh=15676501790240&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.euronews.com%2F2019%2F07%2F11%2Fworld-population-day-eu-population-increases-despite-more-deaths-being-recorded-than-birth
I mean , a 1.1 million population increase plus, you have 2.4 million migrants, spells:
High crime,
Housing shortages ,
No spots at school.
Do you wanna get teabagged? <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>
@Goodwood of Dankโข Some Euroskeptics are like me, they smell the bullshit. Especially when, there were riots for over 8 months in France. These Italians have obviously lost their will and hope on people.
I was joking, miss.
I was double dunking my teabag!
You'll never be able to afford a decent teabag again!
I don't drink tea, dear.
There's always one! I was contemplating on whether or not it is worth seeing Europe fail because, everytime they have a huge increase in population, they go to war with one another.
@TEABAG!!! So it was a EU plot?
I see a mass uprising occuring in Europe.
As they were meant to reject these people. Okay. As the Dublin treaty was supposed to protect the weakness in Economy. Then, yes, they look like they are contradicting themselves and are about to have more conflict.
"Replacement is a far right conspiracy theory" @TEABAG!!!
It almost like a certain George Soro's pulled the strings.
It's not a Soros agreement. He is one of the many thanks signed up to the UN migration pact, which contradicts the Dublin Treaty. I am not one sided on it. I see many sides to this argument or open borders failing
From a left perspective, they should be looking at the climate change reality and the fact that if these people weren't able to take care of their own environment where they live, perhaps it's a no win situation.
>High crime
You forgot more rape gangs and white women/children "disappearing" and the government actively not doing shit about it
because leftists value a rapists vote more than a rape victim
@Violetskies wait a minute !
"No, you have white privilege, you can't claim all that about Rape victims. It's all your fault ."
***MUGABE IS DEAD GAMERS***
Bout time
So for the first time since I joined the server a couple days ago I decided to sit in on the general chat and as i'm writing this its still going on, but two people were going at it about Communism, and anti-communism. And a comment I just made in the chat kind of inspired me to make a invitation to debate something.
The human race as a whole is always looking for two different things in my eyes. Freedom, and Security(or one could call this Peace of Mind.) These two things can be provided by the basis of our societies, a governing body. There are many systems that provide this, Socialism, Communism, Democracy, Monarchy. All of these were brought up as "Solutions" for these two needs at one point or another in the squabbles of the people in <#613767975614283832> . However, it comes to another problem entirely.
The ones who agree with these 4 ideals always clash with the other. Some more than others. This leads into a loop of sorts where neither group can progress their own ideals because they believe the others who disagree are too inept to see "the truth".
To that point, what I would like to ask is the question of, is this true? Are we as a race holding each other back by constantly being at each others throats about what is right or wrong, or is their truly only one way things will be set right? And if so, what would it be?
Yes
I hold no one back, run off the cliff all you want. I just won't follow
its a constant debate
that adapts with new knowledge and fundamental changes and advancements
which is why democracy and free speech are essential, because no one person has the answers
and even if they do, nobody should trust that they do
its a matter of trying out a certain policy or method of enacting a policy, noting the results, and everyone voting on whether or not to go further, maintain, or regress said policy or method of enacting it
and then seeing a potential fundamental change and whether or not the policy or its method will be different
we hold ourselves back lest we make a mistake and doom everything irreparably
i believe i saw that in Brazil, they lost gun rights, then they voted to get them back, and they still dont have their guns back
when you lose something like that, its very hard to take it back
and when i say fundamental changes, i mean things like the invention of something such as Social Media, Automation, Birth Control, Planetary Travel, Nuclear Weapons
before social media, you could only get information from non-authoritative sources by going to a bulletin board in your own town
opens up a huge amount of ideas and influences, and makes people question freedom of speech, as well as if Twitter should be considered like a public forum, but its a private business, so how does this work?
Nuclear Weapons makes it so we just cant go to war with each other under the threat of total annihilation, and so we need to be much more Agreeable as a species in negotiations, but not so far that we reduce individuality to second to globalisation
the only approach is bottom up, where the individuals have their minor changes in a slow evolution, biological or philosophical, otherwise its a Tyranny
unless of course you do the Thanos
and so its necessary to think od individuals but also across the huge span of time AS IF we are a singular hive mind entity
C-c-c-combo breaker!
but the entire hive mind entity can be changed by the actions of a single person, especially NOW
All of this is dabbed on SO hard by the CCP that it's unbelievable that you don't feel dabbed on out of existence.
rephrase that for me if you will
nah, I don feel like I rly need to
well i dont understand what it is youre saying and if youre trying to talk to me, youre going to have to or i have to ignore you
because i simply dont understand
I'm talking to the audience tbh^^
Just ignore him. He likes to pretend to be smarter than he is.
oof
I'm talking about you, chucklenuts.
I know, lover
also, im part of the audience too
@Boop / ๋ธํ / C'thUwU Sorry im only just getting to see this. I agree with everyone you said essentially. I guess the biggest thing bugging me has been if Democracy is so essentially was is there so many who are very vocal about it not being as needed. Is it arguable they are just misguided or are they trying to ruin the system on purpose?
"Anyone who tells you not to think is not your friend."
probably quite a few reasons
one i would imagine is fearmongering and misinformation via mainstream media
A lot of people think they have the facts, when in actuality they've been thoroughly misled.
and the fact that influential people such as celebrities are very far removed from society that they just say things like 'everyone should just get a house whats so hard about that'
That's what happens when the MSM abandons all pretense of objectivity.
but they dont look into it because theyre in a costume for 9 hours pretending to be someone else
Actors act. Celebrities act up.
the fact that the masses are ez to mislead is not exactly a gr8 argument in favor of democracy you know...
then theres also moral equivalency, where technically, islam and Christianity are completely neutral in their objective stance to reality
one is not better than the other on principle
except it depends on the productions of both of them
this statement is nonsensical
they both *are* different moral systems
but then you get the narrative of the power struggle of the Marxists which is to say that people have power because they took it from others
abandoning the idea of being more popular because you align with human's necessity and desries for things thatre are fast, efficient, and cheap
the only way you can judge one as better or worse then the other is if you have your own moral system to judge them by, and if you do, you obviously consider that system to be superior to either, so it;s really not a very important distinction at all
they're both just wrong
democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others
at best one of them is less wrong then the other
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