>High crime

You forgot more rape gangs and white women/children "disappearing" and the government actively not doing shit about it

because leftists value a rapists vote more than a rape victim

@Violetskies wait a minute !

"No, you have white privilege, you can't claim all that about Rape victims. It's all your fault ."

***MUGABE IS DEAD GAMERS***

Bout time

So for the first time since I joined the server a couple days ago I decided to sit in on the general chat and as i'm writing this its still going on, but two people were going at it about Communism, and anti-communism. And a comment I just made in the chat kind of inspired me to make a invitation to debate something.

The human race as a whole is always looking for two different things in my eyes. Freedom, and Security(or one could call this Peace of Mind.) These two things can be provided by the basis of our societies, a governing body. There are many systems that provide this, Socialism, Communism, Democracy, Monarchy. All of these were brought up as "Solutions" for these two needs at one point or another in the squabbles of the people in <#613767975614283832> . However, it comes to another problem entirely.

The ones who agree with these 4 ideals always clash with the other. Some more than others. This leads into a loop of sorts where neither group can progress their own ideals because they believe the others who disagree are too inept to see "the truth".

To that point, what I would like to ask is the question of, is this true? Are we as a race holding each other back by constantly being at each others throats about what is right or wrong, or is their truly only one way things will be set right? And if so, what would it be?

Yes

I hold no one back, run off the cliff all you want. I just won't follow

its a constant debate

that adapts with new knowledge and fundamental changes and advancements

which is why democracy and free speech are essential, because no one person has the answers

and even if they do, nobody should trust that they do

its a matter of trying out a certain policy or method of enacting a policy, noting the results, and everyone voting on whether or not to go further, maintain, or regress said policy or method of enacting it

and then seeing a potential fundamental change and whether or not the policy or its method will be different

we hold ourselves back lest we make a mistake and doom everything irreparably

i believe i saw that in Brazil, they lost gun rights, then they voted to get them back, and they still dont have their guns back

when you lose something like that, its very hard to take it back

and when i say fundamental changes, i mean things like the invention of something such as Social Media, Automation, Birth Control, Planetary Travel, Nuclear Weapons

before social media, you could only get information from non-authoritative sources by going to a bulletin board in your own town

opens up a huge amount of ideas and influences, and makes people question freedom of speech, as well as if Twitter should be considered like a public forum, but its a private business, so how does this work?

Nuclear Weapons makes it so we just cant go to war with each other under the threat of total annihilation, and so we need to be much more Agreeable as a species in negotiations, but not so far that we reduce individuality to second to globalisation

the only approach is bottom up, where the individuals have their minor changes in a slow evolution, biological or philosophical, otherwise its a Tyranny

unless of course you do the Thanos

and so its necessary to think od individuals but also across the huge span of time AS IF we are a singular hive mind entity

C-c-c-combo breaker!

but the entire hive mind entity can be changed by the actions of a single person, especially NOW

All of this is dabbed on SO hard by the CCP that it's unbelievable that you don't feel dabbed on out of existence.

rephrase that for me if you will

nah, I don feel like I rly need to

well i dont understand what it is youre saying and if youre trying to talk to me, youre going to have to or i have to ignore you

because i simply dont understand

I'm talking to the audience tbh^^

Just ignore him. He likes to pretend to be smarter than he is.

oof

I'm talking about you, chucklenuts.

I know, lover

also, im part of the audience too

@Boop / 브파 / C'thUwU Sorry im only just getting to see this. I agree with everyone you said essentially. I guess the biggest thing bugging me has been if Democracy is so essentially was is there so many who are very vocal about it not being as needed. Is it arguable they are just misguided or are they trying to ruin the system on purpose?

"Anyone who tells you not to think is not your friend."

probably quite a few reasons

one i would imagine is fearmongering and misinformation via mainstream media