Message from @Tonight at 11 - DOOM

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2019-09-09 00:51:20 UTC  

@Boop / 브파 / C'thUwU Sorry im only just getting to see this. I agree with everyone you said essentially. I guess the biggest thing bugging me has been if Democracy is so essentially was is there so many who are very vocal about it not being as needed. Is it arguable they are just misguided or are they trying to ruin the system on purpose?

2019-09-09 00:52:03 UTC  

"Anyone who tells you not to think is not your friend."

2019-09-09 00:53:36 UTC  

probably quite a few reasons

2019-09-09 00:53:51 UTC  

one i would imagine is fearmongering and misinformation via mainstream media

2019-09-09 00:54:32 UTC  

A lot of people think they have the facts, when in actuality they've been thoroughly misled.

2019-09-09 00:54:42 UTC  

and the fact that influential people such as celebrities are very far removed from society that they just say things like 'everyone should just get a house whats so hard about that'

2019-09-09 00:54:45 UTC  

That's what happens when the MSM abandons all pretense of objectivity.

2019-09-09 00:54:56 UTC  

but they dont look into it because theyre in a costume for 9 hours pretending to be someone else

2019-09-09 00:55:18 UTC  

Actors act. Celebrities act up.

2019-09-09 00:55:40 UTC  

the fact that the masses are ez to mislead is not exactly a gr8 argument in favor of democracy you know...

2019-09-09 00:56:11 UTC  

then theres also moral equivalency, where technically, islam and Christianity are completely neutral in their objective stance to reality

2019-09-09 00:56:26 UTC  

one is not better than the other on principle

2019-09-09 00:56:44 UTC  

except it depends on the productions of both of them

2019-09-09 00:56:51 UTC  

this statement is nonsensical

2019-09-09 00:57:06 UTC  

they both *are* different moral systems

2019-09-09 00:57:30 UTC  

but then you get the narrative of the power struggle of the Marxists which is to say that people have power because they took it from others

2019-09-09 00:58:08 UTC  

abandoning the idea of being more popular because you align with human's necessity and desries for things thatre are fast, efficient, and cheap

2019-09-09 00:58:14 UTC  

the only way you can judge one as better or worse then the other is if you have your own moral system to judge them by, and if you do, you obviously consider that system to be superior to either, so it;s really not a very important distinction at all

2019-09-09 00:58:43 UTC  

they're both just wrong

2019-09-09 00:58:57 UTC  

democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others

2019-09-09 00:59:00 UTC  

at best one of them is less wrong then the other

2019-09-09 00:59:22 UTC  

it isnt perfect, but its as good as we can get, and the utopian's think they have solutions for the problems democracy brings

2019-09-09 00:59:48 UTC  

you are aware that this is a non-argument right?

2019-09-09 00:59:54 UTC  

such as corruption of some form or another

2019-09-09 01:00:15 UTC  

I can insert any other political system in there instead of democracy, and the statement would be unchanged in its meaning

2019-09-09 01:00:19 UTC  

it's just a statement of faith

2019-09-09 01:00:47 UTC  

and its no surprise that the people that are on the left of the spectrum are younger people, who dont know enough about the world because they have yet to get the oppertunities to learn it

2019-09-09 01:00:58 UTC  

I'm pretty sure medieval peasants thought the same thing about the particullar kind of monarchy they were living under

2019-09-09 01:01:11 UTC  

but also, without them, we arent so easily able to solve problems that they might have fresh takes on because they havent built that mental box

2019-09-09 01:01:32 UTC  

you're just stating vapid platitudes...

2019-09-09 01:03:02 UTC  

so to be opposed to democracy and by extention free markets, is to be misinformed or yet-to-be-informed about political history, philosophy, and technically speaking 'god' in the sense of 'what seems to be the best ways to live in the world that minimizes suffering'

2019-09-09 01:03:21 UTC  

democracy has pretty much nothing to do with free markets

2019-09-09 01:03:34 UTC  

and also you have those that want to see the system break down because there are psychopaths in humanity that want to achieve power or thrive in destabalisation

2019-09-09 01:03:43 UTC  

aka, the trope of Raiders in fallout universes

2019-09-09 01:03:56 UTC  

God this is depressing

2019-09-09 01:05:06 UTC  

you're just making statements and ignoring all the criticism

2019-09-09 01:05:29 UTC  

and also some people have delusions that they are way more powerful than they really are, because if they realise through learning and objective comparisons to others, then they will break down and be mentally defenseless

2019-09-09 01:05:42 UTC  

and the statements are basically the most vanilla shit possible in the modern western status quo

2019-09-09 01:05:48 UTC  

which is why Nihilism is so prevailent

2019-09-09 01:06:18 UTC  

and those people are called 'useful idiots' who think theyll be the next Jesus, when really theyll be another skull of the next dictator to step on to climb their throne

2019-09-09 01:06:27 UTC  

your internal monologue is literally mainstream opinions