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Orania is not self determined and it currently can't accommodate us all.
Orania has more autonomy than the WC
I dont see the problem really... why cant there be 2 options, why must it be orania or nothing at all?
So if we managed to create this Volkstaat around Orania and the ANC imposes total embargo against us. Wehere will we get fuel, solar panels etc from? I don't know, seems it would be too easy for them to smack us around.
@Sheamus because if you form a political union with groups of people that dont share your value structure and outbreed you at astonishing rates then you only pass the buck to your descendants who will face the same, if not worse, challenges that we are facing now.
@HoppeanSnake_ZA one has to be realistic,we need to have a plan as in now. People are fleeing overseas,instead they could settle in towns in the WC that are majority white with Afrikaner culture
@HoppeanSnake_ZA You think others not accepted by orania would not want to do the same? If they arent accepted by orania then why could they not go out and create their own volk staat that doesnt affect you at orania, doesnt have to affect your culture there, but could make for an ally with a port.
So much to consider. I wonder if Willem talked to them about these things when they were there...
They've obviously mulled these things over ad nauseam
No other province offers what the WC have on offer.
EC is Xhosa country
KZN is Zululand.
We need the port in the WC
@Gonzo I just dont believe in multi-culturalism. A hard life in Orania where one sacrifices some of the perks of a multi-culti WC for a peaceful existence and a better future for my descendants. @Sheamus Im not opposed to a port town at all but I believe that establishing Orania as a small city state should be priority number 1.
@HoppeanSnake_ZA like I said we can become self determined afterwards. Our chances will be Much better then.
First step is getting everyone together as a majority in one place.
Fair enough, we are arguing about symantics. If a similar experiment like Orania can be launched in the WC, it will get my full support but moving to the WC just because the Bantu is mean and the (((DA))) offers a slightly less oppressive government is not the way to go.
@HoppeanSnake_ZA I get that you dont believe in it, but no one is telling you not to go to Orania, not even opposing it. Just understand that Orania has strict requirements, one being clean from any drugs for more than 2 years, weed happens to be a really good relaxant for when you struggle to get good sleep and rest, as well as pain. I will not be accepted for that, and neither would many others, but it's not like i think less of them for that, it's their rules, and then there is the whole calvanist christian, not a lot of people accept that either, and that too seems like a requirement. So like that, why cant there just be a secondary independent state then? Also why does it have to be DA if there would be an independent state, the DA despise the idea of an indepenedent state, they wouldnt want to be part of it anyways lol
yeah. just a couple of notches too far on the amish side.
which might be a good thing. no degeneracy going to creep up to orania.
@Sheamus @cยตrvy I understand what you are saying. Although I think you are strawmanning Calvinism. They want a clean community free of all drugs, sorry to say but weed is degenerate. Not thart Im perfect we all have our vices but im just being honest. We should discourage all forms of pharmakia, it is anti-Christian. Again not judging just being honest.
@HoppeanSnake_ZA its much more than that. And its not really even about the DA its about giving the afrikaner a place, a future,instead of fleeing
We can start networking more and create jobs for own. A lot of towns will be majority Afrikaner,much easier to control security wise then also. Playing The democracy game to our advantage until we can become self determined. Because right now we are minorities all over SA.
Its a step in the right direction IMO. Because currently there is no other option that makes sense that can be implemented as in now
@HoppeanSnake_ZA Oh I am not looking to encourage it, I know if I was not living in a shithole paranoid about anything keeping me awake at night, I wouldnt need an aid to get a good nigths rest. Unfortunately 2 years is a long time to wait in order to get accepted. Again, I am not opposed to Orania or it's standards, in fact I am not sitting here shaming them for their ways, merely respecting it and saying not all of us will meet their requirements, so might as well go along and form a plan B kind of idea, and then from there, and with that, have a port and allies. Obviously orania will be the role model to follow.
@Gonzo I nver said the DA would grant you independence. In fact I encouraged the complete opposite, a similar type of independant community like Orania in the WC. There is none, however so there is no reason for me to move to the WC. We have the embers of a possible Republic in Orania and for that it receives my full support.
@HoppeanSnake_ZA I prefer not to be landlocked in a black majority country and without a port
I think we all fundamentally agree that independance is the way to go. Orania's location is perilous but not really either. Its the future capital boys, trust me on that. Sea Cucks that setup in the WC will be envious of the mighty Orania, we have a 20 year headstart on you sea cucks.๐
Let's chat in <#468388839799390210>
ok where are you?
@Daniel van Straaten general chat. I linked the text chat๐
These gatvol capetnian ous dont like us Boers for some reason. If you think you guys , as coloureds are gatvol, imagine being a farmer in Limpopo.
Seke iets van onse ma.
Farm list leaked for the start of expropriation without compensation.
@KoninginTanja discussion started around here: https://discordapp.com/channels/468388839799390208/468388839799390210/478094189423493123
long time no see, btw.
@cยตrvy was a bit busy๐
So this is how we're doing to be compared..
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^^^ When you make the news by simply tweeting that not everything about colonialism was bad.
COPE's doing even..
Goeie nuus uit Australiรซ: Die NSW parlement het pas 'n mosie met betrekking tot Suid-Afrika aanvaar, wat enige onteiening sonder billike vergoeding, asook uitsprake ter marginalisering van enige bevolkingsgroep, ten sterkste veroordeel.
AfriForum verwelkom die aanvaarding van die mosie en hoop dat die Suid-Afrikaanse regering ernstig daarvan kennis neem.
Hierdie is maar die begin van die internasionale stryd wat teen onteiening sonder vergoeding gevoer sal word.
Hier is die volledige mosie:
NSW Legislative Council
That this House notes:
1. Articles 2 and 3 of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.
2. That this House strongly condemns:
(a) any and all calls for the killing, marginalisation, persecution, victimisation and targeting of any racial group in the Republic of South Africa by any of its officials, past or present, and
(b) any law that unjustly expropriates land from any individual without fair, just and equitable compensation.
โput and passed.
๐
Mind blown
The Frik Muller case has been denied its 4th appeal for bail. This is hectic, please share this with everyone. (Background story; this farmer fired one of his workers but the worker refused to leave the house that is for workers only. After the farmer asked help from police and every other line he could to no avail, he decided to scrap his house. The worker refused to exit the house and a fallen brick caused him minor injuries. Now the farmer is in jail for attempted murder, who was denied bail 4 times pending the trial. The reason given is that he is a danger to the worker who is still occupying the house illegally. Yes. This is a good way to get the farmer off his land.)
https://maroelamedia.co.za/nuus/sa-nuus/wes-kaapse-boer-hoor-oor-aansoek-om-borgtog/#comments
@everyone ๐ this is an important shift. Share.
Personally i would have just gotten other workers to carry that ones weight, would have been better off that way letting them deal with the problem... But yeah, this is pretty obvious what they trying to achieve with this.
Just listen to the audio. Don't know if this has been posted
@DrLoLCat I'm guessing the reaction to this would be along the lines of friends covering for each other. Everyone that benefited from apartheid will lie and cover for each other.
@Sheamus yeah, no doubt about that. His demeanor made him sound like an honest guy. To me atleast.
@DrLoLCat yeah appearances can be deceiving, let's go by the objective facts though... If there are any either way. ๐
For those who want to know the procces behind changing our constitution. Re; #EWC
OPINION: Who will protect you when the ANC comes for the land?
https://www.news24.com/Columnists/GuestColumn/who-will-protect-you-when-the-anc-comes-for-the-land-20180819-2?
shared via @News24
Get Ready
What the hell is the plan
MiWay-baas sรช jammer oor omstrede twiet https://maroelamedia.co.za/nuus/sa-nuus/miway-baas-se-jammer-oor-omstrede-twiet/
So would Eskom have no money to pay its employees then with immediate effect?
https://twitter.com/chrislbecker/status/1031800980499783680
BusinessTech: South Africa is on the path to becoming another Zimbabwe โ and may require US intervention: analyst.
https://businesstech.co.za/news/business/266607/south-africa-is-on-the-path-to-becoming-another-zimbabwe-and-may-require-us-intervention-analyst/
*warning*
Adriaan Basson <:reeeeeeeeeee:469473864687026177> ๐ก
Tenielle Grove <[email protected]>
17 Aug 2018, 13:39 (6 days ago)
to me
Dear Member of the public,
The Constitutional Review Committee of Parliament acknowledges receipt of your submission on the possible review of Section 25 of the Constitution.
Your submission is important and will be processed accordingly.
Thanking you
Thats typical โrevolutionaryโ movements, they make a lot of propaganda and refuse real facts. Its because all they can do is to break down, never build.
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