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Hey guys. Please watch the video and take the straw poll. Important issues, or some shit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URxX8e5cjW4
Someone needs to tell them the women were at home in the factories
Minus some supporting units and I think some aviation units
Christ the man even looks like a stereotypical villain
Step 1: More migrants.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Europe saved!
It's absolute nonsense, the idea of 'Saving Europe' or 'Saving' any location.
You're either talking about saving European cultures, in which case unchecked migration will not help
Or saving the literal land? Which it's absolutely autistic to think that migration would help that...
Saving the nations of Europe? You're drastically redefining them, in which case if your goal is to work against a decline in population, it'll change anyway.
>references Italy as if it has ever been anything other than a loose collections of cite-states ruled over by a corrupt government.
"But, looking ahead, Europe now faces the collapse of the Iran nuclear deal and the destruction of the transatlantic alliance, which is bound to have a negative effect on its economy and cause other dislocations."
yes, because rather than exploiting the US for money, Iran might turn to Europe and they are all too stupid to say no
This happens every time. They don’t understand that they make the problem worse by ignoring the US. Just prolongs shit.
You need to only give your enemy one way out for best negotiations (see NK) but it’s not possible when everyone else helps them escape that fate.
italy wasent very corrupt in the 30's
the idea of saving europe underminds its true problems regardless of what your solution is. they a countrys not a monolith. while in the last 50 years the contanent has become more homogenous than its ever been since the roman empire, deep in the core of every nation there is a need to be themselves and have control over their lives and know themselves as their ancestors knew themselves. europe can never give that to anyone because europe has never existed, not truely. its history is not its own but that of a hundred so groups of people who have been in millennia of conflict, seporation, and their own perspective, nothing can change that but forgetting it, and forgetting it means your people have no history, and people without history rarely have meaning
"Dude, the pollen in my nose is not bacteria. Leave it alone. It's nothing." ~ Tim talking to his immune system
i had that 2 weeks ago
I can't believe I actually got myself to read it all: https://www.refinery29.com/2018/05/199256/cultural-appropriation-vs-appreciation
When you teach people to get upset about what they think are anthills, why are you surprised when they get upset at actual anthills?
anyone here saw Deadpool 2 and not find it funny?
the amount of SJW "jokes" is huge
Making fun of SJWs or pro SJW?
mostly the latter I would say
2 characters were there just because they were lesbians, nothing else
Fuck. It’s like they are determined to run every movie into the ground.
cultural appropriation jokes everywhere
jokes about cops being racist
an orphanage full of white guys that (without any explanation) "are ALL pedophiles"
"don't kill anyone", proceeds to kill only white people
the main "kid" of the plot is a really fat guy
and one of his lines is about fat people representation in Hollywood on acting roles
Rotten tomatoes has it in the 80% mark and usually if a movie is too SJW it gets to around 60%. Might be ok regardless.
Well... one of the lesbians was obviously into deadpool, sooo...
Always go by the audience score on Rotten Tomatoes. The critic score is political.
The audience score for Deadpool 2 is about the same as the critic score so it can't be that bad.
But you also get things like this:
I remember listening to a podcast and the guy on there said that it's better for a movie to get a Rotten Tomatoes score in the mid 80's rather than the 90's, as a score in the 90's is the sign of a film for critics while a score in the 80's is more of a sign of mainstream appeal
That makes sense to me.
If every critic agrees it's likely virtue signaling and not actual criticism.
Maybe I've been watching the "solo: a star wars story" reviews while the critical score has stayed at 70% but audience score whent down to 54% and now it's up to 63%
Which makes me think there's some fuckery going on there.
Solo seems caught between the two factions
those who see a female and scream sjws have gone too far and those who see anything progressive and go this is the best thing since sliced bread
and somewhere in the middle are real reviews
once again: "We want to be treated equally by being treated differently!"
http://archive.is/qTwvU archive link for those who don't want to give gizmodo clicks
i have them blocked in my hosts file to always remind me to use archive.is
@Grenade123 I mean star wars dose have some progressive bullshit in it, but the last two films were just lazy.
and that is where the real criticize lies. stuck in-between the to factions. No, its not suck because, or not solely because, it has progressive bs in. And no, it is not great just because it has progressive bs in it. The problem comes down to being lazy writing, and uninteresting story telling. Ultimately the cause for this is irrelevant, the solution is to stop being lazy.
One of my main gripes is that Finn has no purpose as a character. He does nothing. Accomplishes nothing.
He's not a hero because he's continually running away.
Even when he fights, he's somehow shown to be wrong for doing so.
The one time he could have been a hero the mechanic person stopped him.
I don't get what purpose they think he serves.
At this point he's just a foil and love interest for the mechanic asian that nobody remembers the name of.
Who just kinda showed up and was a mary sue.
the problems of last jedi wernt really the progressivism, that probably reinforced it, but it wasent the real issue, it was actually full blown incompatency behind the writing
I think the two problems are deeply intertwined.
that movie doesent just ruin starwars, it ruined the last movie in the sequince and people had problems with that movie to start with
My main problem is that Rey never gets a fucking scratch one her and is just magically the best at everything with so little training.
Yeah that's awful
you look at the original trilogy and Luke fucking sucks at everything, constantly needing his buddies to save his ass. and only haft he disappears for god knows how long does he come back at all competent, and he still almost dies in the end
Luke is supposed to be extremely powerful, and it takes him years of training and failure to achieve anything.
yeah i dont really care to much about that in 8. i think they should have solved that, but at the same time i dont actually think RAY is even the main character in that movie, i think she has less than 50% screentime
also, what did they do to fucking luke?!
"i won't strike you down in anger....but'll kill this little kid here"
Yeah that was pretty bad,
i think luke is their culmination of incompatence and progressivism
"I don't want anyone to find me but i'll leave a map"
but the incompatence was a big factor in it
and all they had to do to fix that scene, is make snoke appear like it seemed kylo did
I don't know who that old hermit on the island was, but it wasn't Luke Skywalker.
same exact misunderstanding, but motive completely different
what you have to understand is that the key focus the writer for the last jedi had was "take any thing people want to see in this movie, and do the exact opposite"
the only thing he didint really subvert was ray and kylo
everything else was opposite world from what anyone wanted to see in starwars
is that really their motivation? or was he just that incompetent he didn't know how to remove all the old stuff to make new stuff in a good way
no it really was his motivation
its not just old stuff
do you have proof of this?
he ruined shit 7 set up
And that's why it's bad writing.
yes he did, but like i said, could just be he didn't know how to do things in a good way, and botched it entirely
Subversion for it's own sake is not a story.
wanted to remove everything and make his own in understandable, but intentionally do the complete opposite to make people hate it is an accusation that needs some evidence
also, its not like 7 set up much to start with
nah it wasent just "remove stuff to make it my own" because he never actually added anything
sure he did, he added rose and an animal abuse PSA
this movie starts with the characters running away and it ends with the characters running away
Like we expect Poe to be a hero. Someone who breaks the rules and saves the day. The subversion is that the qualities we expect to be present in a hero are in fact bad, and that he is fucking up the plan of the bitch commander. The bad writing is that there's no reason for the bitch commander not to simply inform Poe of what the plan is.
"how do we make good movie? I know, conflict for conflicts sake!"
to be fair, one motivation is "we are not entirely sure how they followed us, so we are keeping things a secret" but that would require writing that in the explanation later.
there are so many tiny changes like that which make 8 salvageable that they just didn't.
We expect good leaders to understand their underlings and not cause mutinies, but the subversion is Holdo is a complete moron and refuses to encourage or inspire even the least bit of loyalty.
what i actually find interesting is wondering if theres actually anything they have lefft to make a 9th movie from
i want vice admiral gender studies to be a traitor for that subversion without reason
The best way to get people to trust you and have faith in you when you ask them to do something dangerous is to publicly belittle them.
Works every time.
Really nothing has changed from 7.
if you really think about it, they have less at the end of 8 than they had at the end of 7
The big bad guy is dead.
oh fuck a toooooon of shit changes from 7
And they can just skip ahead a few years, so they have an army again.
What has changed from 7?
The big bad didn't matter. Came out of nowhere, died for no purpose.
7 set up plot lines
8 got rid of them
i mean, they still have the main bad guy, kylo. they just got rid of both his dad issues
his actual dad in 7, and his step dad in 8
Ray's family is nobodys? Could be a lie.
The knights or ren are still out there.
7 set up nothing really.
I was kinda expecting Kylo and Rey to be brother and sister. So that was a subversion as well.
I don't think most people expected that to be a thing.
Their force skype sex thing was a creepy AF in 8.
aside from "hey, empire 2.0 is back because......reasons. where have they been hiding, and why does the resistance need to be a thing? Because reasons. fuck it, we needed a reset button. these are the big baddies that have a fleet yet apparently have no planets they control and just pissed off the whole sector"
oh, and in 8 we just destroyed their fleet
destroyed their fleet with a very obvious tactic that no one ever did ever before in thousands of years of light speed.
"what is up with luke, why did he become a hermit" finding the map to luke was part of the plot of 7 to set up for more plot in 8, they ruined that by making it pointless and not actually add to anything. "who is snoke, how is he so powerful as to form a first order thats arguibly more powerful than the empire was" doesent matter because he dies in 8 and its not even explained. "what will the first order do now that most of their stuff is destroyed" well 8 basicly says they have no limit to how much shit they can have and the resistance has nothing because "reasons".
really, why is the first order dangerous? This like a civil war in a third world country to the rest of this sector
the knights of ren are a thing but the movie didint even do anything with them, its the only thing besides "characters are running away" that is left in the series
Don't worry guys I bet we'll get an even bigger death star next movie.
It's be perfect.
its worked so well before
This one blows up galaxies.
i mean, we still have the question of where the fuck they got those resources
because apparently they have them
Stole them from downtrodden waifs.
i kinda think it would be a good idea to kill ray in the first scene of the next movie. it would be a subversion that you could actually make something interesting from
downtrodden waifs of fucking where?!
Oppressing brown people probably.
Like the kids on the gambling planet.
apparently 1 planet made all that shit
1 planet has the resources to make a whole artificial planet
like, was there 2 planets there, and they hollowed them both out?
Thrawn would be pissed at the first order for being so hell bent on such massive war weapons.
what i kind of think is going to happen is leia is going to become suddenly more mystical and jedi-like in the next movie and be the mentor for ray that luke shoulda been if 8 was compatent. then the jedi scrolls will get involved because thats the only thing that 8 actually left some kind of setup for. and then its also going to be a battle between resistance and empire, ray and kylo where its going to be very teenage twilight dramay that the movies seem to think is a good idea now. hell they could have ray and kylo married by the end of it for all i know, its gonna be shit either way
people are going to try to construct a movie from the nothingness that episode 8 left
theres a reason you saw a bunch of fan theorys about 8 but not much about 9
9 doesent have much to work with now
you would need a masterful director/writer team to pull off something good now
someone like tarenteno or deltoro
How are they gonna have Leia have a part when her actress is dead?
she was cgi in 8
Should've had the character die.
oh i agree
but they only have what they have
I guess it's perfectly feasible from a tech standpoint now that we have the deepfakes algorithm.
useful characters are at a minimum
Finn and Poe have no purpose. Luke is dead. Snoke is dead. Rose is the moral voice. Rey is a perfect Mary Sue.
ray and kylo can't get married. that would make them cis scum, and white scum. and marriage is the patriarchy
Finn is the love interest.
Maybe they can have a poly triad. Progressive like fuck.
Rose is the moral voice? right. Sacrifice 1 to save 1 rather than sacrifice 1 to save 100.
oh wait, he was black
I never said she was a the smart moral voice.
right, he counts as 101
moral voice of the nerrator not of reason
no no, he is black, this is the thing i factored out
Maybe I should've said moralizing voice.
and clearly the others were all white
so they can die
i mean, poe needed to die
hell, save the black man so that 100 white males can die
easy trade off
He has a target on his back in the next movie.
makes for a strong rebellion
honestly does anyone else ever think about the irony that the entire goal for the resistance in that movie was to make it to that salt planet and yet they leave 5 days later?
thats how you be a shit writer
my guess: the first order does everything entirely wrong because its run by white males, finn and rose become the new leaders of the resistance, constantly nearly destroy the resistance with dumb moves because they are inexperienced yet the deus ex machina of incompetent white guys keeps that from happening because they are even more incompetent than finn and rose. Rey goes off on some woman empowerment BS before killing kylo for being white and male.
Finn becomes the bumbling man to Rose's smart woman, Leia becomes Rey's Yoda, Poe dies doing something that Leia tells him not to do, Rey kills Kylo without saving him, and then rides off into the sunset.
between the name and the comment in response to EU's new bill is just perfect
"you never need to carry a knife"
you sir, have never needed to open a box, or been in any car accident, or seen one.
send that man to goli otok
Report that man.
"Little Attractions @LittleAtPodcast
No I do not believe kids can concent. Some people do but not me. Any sex with a child is non concenting and therefor rape"
well, seems society is at an impasse with this person
He's accurate about that.
Begs a question of how someone gets help if asking for it would result in potential physical harm
Kind of like how can we expect ex-convicts to be productive members of society if we actively reject them
really depends, If they try to better themselves, i'll accept them
But for example here in holland we had a dude that shot and killed a politician in cold blood
And he got upset that he had to attend monthly checkups during his parole and actively didn't attend them
for that its like, Dude you're a murderer and now demand special treatment? He should've been shoved back in jail for his lack of attendence, but the justice system didn't bother
i believe grenade pointed out that was an onion article
actually its a daily mail artical
guys i think im a pedophobe
Why is the racial breakdown of cyclists a problem? Are they going to have to hand out cycling licenses and limit the number given to white people?
Maybe pay non-white people to cycle next to white people so cycling lanes feel more diverse?
It's like how in Canada they're complaining that the outdoors is too white.
@Atkins according to the article, they think its because things are not safe enough
idk what that has to do with it being mostly white, apparently only white people, specifically white males, are stupid enough to ride in such potentially dangerous conditions?
some things in life are not safe. i don't see how skin color affects that. unless white people have unbreakable skin or something.
the article really does not explain how the two relate
they are just like "cycling is too white!"
"No clue! just is! must be racism somehow"
you do realize that nobody here is reading your shit
Just rember race is more than skin color.
Race is more than just skin color, but it isn't that big of a deal bro.
I sugeest you watch the video I linked. Basically racial differences include average intelligence, bone structure, ect.
By nature we are different but by nurture we are equal.
No I get that, I'm not an sjw that denies science. But those aren't very important charactaristics of individuals. If we're working towards a societal goal its okay that some aren't as affluent or able as others. I don't see the differences we have as that bad of a thing.
That's not how evolution works. the races evolved in different environment so why would they be the same?
Its when people abuse their abilities or lack of that is the problem, which I'm sure is what sets you on fire. That's not unique.
The thing is society is made of millions of people not a few people so we need to look at the average.
I don't understand how a group of people who have an average IQ of 85 (American blacks) can live in the same society as people who have an averge IQ of 100 (whites).
Because averages are part of it. How can the whites with 130 IQ live with whites who have 70?
I'm talking about the racial averages. I know whites have a wide bell curve but whites would live better with other whites because monoracial are more successful than multiracial societies because monoracial societies there are no racial tension while multiracial societies will always have racial tension.
Give Bowling Alone a read and then tell me a diverse society is better than a homogeneous society.
Or you could read this.
I'll give it a read when I get back. And while I don't think diversity is the greatest thing in the world I don't see it as a detriment. The US is pretty successful, some would say. Compared with, say, Peru or Kyrgystan. bbl
I would say America is more successful than Peru because America had a white super majorty. I think a better question to ask is why has Canada always done better than Brazil?
Averages are nothing more than observations that tell you nothing about an individual standing in front of you.