and this is how we get to "biological sex is a social construct"

if gender becomes volatile and not useful it will be because people are using it for that purpose

meaning its not useless

if enough SJW use racism as "prejudice+power" should we assume the definition changed too?

they will change it against your will if you let them

@.B good news, they now have a name for prejudice against people of the same power level, its apparently called colorism

ik

xD

and colorism is exactly what the initial racism was

which is ironic

which is why i think its best just to just give gender a better definition or no definition at all

and invalidates their redifinition of racism

gotta love when they finally realized there are black people who are racist against black people, and had to make a new word because they were like "oh yeah... this is a thing"

or, you say gender = sex

and it's done

so does that mean black on black crime is now colorism?

wont hold up in the long run

it holded up until today

gender doesent mean sex, because boats have a gender but not a sex

what

boats?

boats are female

wut?

that is personification

most things in the spanish language have genders

so?

ahh

not all languages have gendered nouns

@Arch-Fiend but if gender =/= sex, then a boat does not have a gender, it has a sex

gender doesent equel sex

the boat has no sexual characteristics, sorry

because there is only male gender, female gender, and neutral gendered words in languages

you can't have it both ways

thats because gender doesent discribe sexual characteristics

so gender could only be binary if that is the point you tried to make

well no physical ones

gender only defines social and psychological sexual characteristics

which would mean it defines nothing

boats don't have any

which is why i dont like the word

boats are called she

do something about it

btw, afaik boat is male in spanish

barco

thats fine, now its male

or bote

la lancha is female

doesent make gender any more useful a way to define sex

now that inanimate objects have genders

you basically destroyed your own argument though, genders in languages are binary

i never said genders wernt binary

there's male, female and neutral

i said i dont care about them

and that it doesent define sex

you were arguing "gender =/= sex"

sex doesent define bianary, sex that we know of has a bianary

you lost me, idk what you meant

what you said before the last thing i said only makes sense with the thing you said before that if your defining bianary as sex

language has masculine, feminine, and neutral. If you want to call that arbitrary distinctions gender, then fine. But that is a random ass thing to call gender

also probably not appropriate because i believe it already has a name

continuing with this thread of discussion.. so should languages invent 35 new ways to gender nouns?

oh, it already has a name, grammatical gender, so i guess you can just call that gender

well, sjw's would like that

and good fucking luck to them, i'd like to see them try it

would be amusing to see them try

i havent called any arbitrary disstinction gender, at first i started with gender not existing, then i moved forward with the idea that if you want gender to exist then gender must define something different than sex because things without sex have gender, if you created a definition that made sense in that context for gender then gender would be social and psychological sexual characteristics

gender always existed as another synonim to sex

we didn't agree on that?

gender = sex, just as there are many other words that mean the same as other words

its a piss poor definition for sex if it doesent actually work as a definition for sex

you can take any existing thing that says gender and you could replace it with sex

as that is how it was used

you cant say "this word means this word but only sometimes"

you can say those applications of the word sex seem silly or random, and i would agree

that doesn't change the fact that is how it was used

Besides, why not?

there is no "but only sometimes"

what sex is a boat?

any application of sex and gender is/was interchangeable

yes

boat is an it

boat is a she, a female pronoun

please show me the dick or boobs on a boat

not in all languages

how do boats fuck?

feminine article

show me what about the boat makes it feminine?

rule34 applies

you'd have ask the people who made up language

not a god damn thing about a boat makes it feminine, its almost like gender isint the same god damn thing as sex

if you want a guess on boat in particular, it was because the sailors on it build the same kind of connection with it as they did with their wives, so the boat became a sort of replacement for the females of their lives, given that it used to be all men and nothing but the men.

the moment sex discribed sexual characteristics or an action sex no longer means gender

they personified the boat

here, have a pic of Titanic

humans are weird

i like the starberd side on that chick

funny stuff aside

some lanmguages have gendered words

others don't