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2018-09-05 18:30:46 UTC

they've probably never heard of a reasonable counter argument

2018-09-05 18:30:50 UTC

Im not saying dont debate them or dont let them speak

2018-09-05 18:30:53 UTC

to their beliefs

2018-09-05 18:31:21 UTC

What i am saying is dont let them into the party

2018-09-05 18:31:42 UTC

Yeah

2018-09-05 18:31:52 UTC

Shed brought up a good point too, history's lessons are often lost in translation

2018-09-05 18:31:55 UTC

What do you guys think about Nancy Pelosi?

2018-09-05 18:34:53 UTC

The point of history is to provide a perspective, to show how things react and how outside forces keep working. The lesson from history classes should be that there is a grand game being played and everyone is an essential part of it, regardless of whether they realize it or not.

2018-09-05 18:35:31 UTC

Yes

2018-09-05 18:35:38 UTC

Agree with her one some things and disagree with her on others

2018-09-05 18:36:21 UTC

For example I am strongly in favor of allowing confederate monuments to stand because of how well the US held itself together post civil war

2018-09-05 18:36:33 UTC

same, but I completely despise her because of how much money she's gotten off big corporations

2018-09-05 18:36:47 UTC

Those monuments are a part of culture/history of the south and they are as a american as it gets

2018-09-05 18:36:59 UTC

policy wise, some things I agree but some things I disagree on

2018-09-05 18:37:27 UTC

For better or worse those people fought and died for what they thought would be a better future. The soldiers and leaders deserve to be honored and remembered.

2018-09-05 18:37:56 UTC

^

2018-09-05 18:38:39 UTC

Though I think that such a truth should not make people forget one of the main causes for the civil war

2018-09-05 18:39:33 UTC

People who say that the war was about slavery are correct. People who say that the war was about states rights are correct too.

2018-09-05 18:40:43 UTC

The war was a question: Should the federal government in the US should have enough power to completely ruin the economy of a large portion of the country?

2018-09-05 18:41:16 UTC

Yeah, I agree, maybe war was necessary; but they commited some atrocities in the name of the federal government that left

2018-09-05 18:41:25 UTC

the south in ruin

2018-09-05 18:41:53 UTC

Indeed, which is why the reconstruction was so vital that the North not occupy the south, but help them rebuild and go hands off as much as possible.

2018-09-05 18:42:32 UTC

There are many people who think that the Union should have occupied the south and forced them to change their ways.

2018-09-05 18:42:54 UTC

There should have been an operation to revitalise the southern economy

2018-09-05 18:44:07 UTC

The south being left in ruin leads to a lot of people becoming far right, it was foolish of the north to have banned slavery, ruin the south and then not try fix the southern economy

2018-09-05 18:44:19 UTC

It leads to political divide

2018-09-05 18:45:42 UTC

There was no option for most of the south to be revitalized

2018-09-05 18:46:16 UTC

They were based entirely around slave agricultural cash crops with very little industry or natural resources to go with it

2018-09-05 18:46:37 UTC

Yeah, but many countries have been reformed drasticaly

2018-09-05 18:46:58 UTC

I think if the federal government had spent money on building industry there

2018-09-05 18:47:06 UTC

it would not have been as bad

2018-09-05 18:48:18 UTC

Whatever they would have built wouldve been overshadowed by the northern version as they had been operating longer doing the same tasks

2018-09-05 18:48:53 UTC

Not if they spent a long time constantly investing in southern industry

2018-09-05 18:49:24 UTC

but that would be quite a complex thing to do

2018-09-05 18:51:59 UTC

Indeed and its never as simple as it sounds.

2018-09-05 18:53:31 UTC

I mean it's possible, it's just that it'd be very difficult and I mean very

2018-09-05 18:54:50 UTC

The issue is that theres nothing to improve and no missing industry

2018-09-05 18:57:04 UTC

Bro, have you ever heard of Ireland or Singapore?

2018-09-05 18:57:20 UTC

Came from nothing, almsot no natural resources (Ireland only has some fish)

2018-09-05 18:57:54 UTC

>Singapore
>no natural resources

2018-09-05 18:58:38 UTC

It does have almost none though

2018-09-05 18:58:47 UTC

They import most of their stuff

2018-09-05 18:59:02 UTC

It's just that they are good with what little they have, same as Ireland

2018-09-05 18:59:30 UTC

Besides the circumstances are different

2018-09-05 18:59:41 UTC

Ye I just meant in general

2018-09-05 18:59:47 UTC

there's got to be a way

2018-09-05 18:59:52 UTC

Singapore was being industrialized at a point where foreigners were willing to invest heavily in industry

2018-09-05 19:00:23 UTC

That feeling didnt exist until after world war two. Prior to that all nations wanted as much domestic industry as possible.

2018-09-05 19:01:14 UTC

Yeah that is a good point I probably should have thought of

2018-09-05 19:01:53 UTC

Ill have to study Ireland a bit more before i understand how they achieved their current status

2018-09-05 19:02:37 UTC

Most of my studies has been on the post world war two history of Asian countires

2018-09-05 19:04:20 UTC

I know a lot about Ireland, It gained its riches from good trade relations, low corporate tax making tons of beef then spent the money gained on educating people and thus also leading in the pharmaceutical industry. Summed up very simplisticly and shortly

2018-09-05 19:13:49 UTC

Not saying it couldn't be done, but I don't think that what worked for Ireland would be entirely relevant to what could work for the American south. Just Texas alone is 10 times the size of Ireland and a thousand times bigger than Singapore

2018-09-05 19:16:52 UTC

Yeah I get what you mean, when it comes to industralisation obv the larger the harder

2018-09-05 19:17:02 UTC

it is to do

2018-09-06 16:24:24 UTC

Did you know that the legend of Saint Patrick was about the man who drove the original black inhabitants out of Ireland

2018-09-06 16:24:56 UTC

Ireland was originally an afro-centric colony thats why they are so good at making music

2018-09-06 16:36:25 UTC

OK?

2018-09-06 16:36:45 UTC

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2018-09-07 07:16:14 UTC

I'm fairly certain that's wrong, you got a source on that? From what I know it's about him driving the druids from Ireland and converting the people to Catholicism since he believed that the druids were "snakes" as in symbols of evil/charlatans

2018-09-07 07:16:22 UTC

Source: I'm irish

2018-09-07 07:57:20 UTC
2018-09-07 07:59:23 UTC

Those kind of theories quite fascinating me, where you look at author you cannot be sure how much of it its trolling and how much is actually beliving that shit.

2018-09-07 08:41:55 UTC

Really? That's strange, I've never heard of the Twa people before and my granddad is very into his Irish history, so it's just a little surprising to me.

2018-09-07 08:45:26 UTC

Yeah, AskHistorians is saying the Twa people being from Ireland was a myth invented around the 1800s-1900s

2018-09-07 08:46:59 UTC

Website you linked is batshit insane, tho, omg

2018-09-07 08:47:44 UTC

"Black people celebrating because of genetic memory" Nah, it's an excuse for all people everywhere to get drunk because the bars are full and party-hard, there's also parades and public drunkenness is pretty much ignored

2018-09-07 08:48:01 UTC

Clearly the Irish just throw the best parties ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-09-07 08:48:16 UTC

But yeah all jokes aside the afroperspectives thing is hokey

2018-09-07 10:11:02 UTC

Leprechauns known for being dwarf-like in size - article names a height that is barely smaller than the average of the time

2018-09-07 16:53:47 UTC

So what if the leprechauns are just immortal irish men hmm <:TimThink:482277772497125378>

2018-09-07 17:06:38 UTC

Shit, we've been caught

2018-09-07 17:22:59 UTC

you know how old people seem to get a bit shorter as time goes on?

2018-09-07 17:23:07 UTC

what happens if you never die.

2018-09-07 17:35:48 UTC

you just inverse grow

2018-09-07 19:49:26 UTC

I've been thinking recently about the pros of a constituional monarchy. I think there is untapped potential that is overlooked in a constitutional monarchy. I'm not saying that one should be put in power, just that it has some benefits.

2018-09-07 19:52:11 UTC

The main reason I was thinking about this is, if someone spent 20 years being taught to lead a nation it would be a great benefit. Especially, if the person elected into monarchy was a highly qualified individual

2018-09-07 19:52:32 UTC

who could teach their offspring

2018-09-07 19:52:34 UTC

/heir

2018-09-07 19:53:00 UTC

Itโ€™s not a merit based system though. Some heirs just arenโ€™t fit to lead.

2018-09-07 20:03:04 UTC

I mean tbh, if the king had multiple heirs

2018-09-07 20:03:12 UTC

he dedicated over two decades teaching

2018-09-07 20:03:27 UTC

it might be good

2018-09-07 20:30:36 UTC

teaching how to manipulate the people into blinding following you for your own selfish gains? oh yeah, brilliant.

2018-09-07 20:31:05 UTC

you know what might also be a good idea? Autocrats school 101, hosted by hillary clinton.

2018-09-07 20:40:38 UTC

No I mean, if the constituion made it illegal for the king/queen to porfit from it

2018-09-07 20:40:49 UTC

and the king/queen also had to teach morals and ethics

2018-09-07 20:41:01 UTC

to their heirs

2018-09-07 22:10:45 UTC

They profit from it by default, they have most of the power.

2018-09-07 22:10:51 UTC

Or the are just a figure head.

2018-09-07 22:33:18 UTC

@Timcast M hey i watched your video about abortion where you compared a baby to a vampire and I was thinking does this mean youโ€™d be ok with me removing money given to people on welfare since they are sapping my life in a slightly different but comparable way only i never did anything that would lead them to suck out my life

2018-09-07 22:33:29 UTC

Figured this was a better place

2018-09-08 01:28:11 UTC

Then you also need to get rid of the benefits a king would get. Some are in it for the power and nothing else.

2018-09-08 12:49:39 UTC

removing a baby from your body is different from shooting someone in the head

2018-09-08 12:49:57 UTC

providing welfare to a person is different from forcing a person to provide their being to another

2018-09-08 12:50:07 UTC

the blood of a woman is not the same as handing someone a sandwich

2018-09-08 12:50:22 UTC

i dont like abortion and I dont think it should be used as contraception

2018-09-08 12:50:35 UTC

but Im more worried about a government that can mandate you provide your body to another

2018-09-08 12:56:36 UTC

Hi there Tim! Been watching here and there for a while, and I have a thesis I would like torn to the ground if at all possible.

2018-09-08 12:57:36 UTC

It's presented under the name CanadianDaves on your Trump of Brazil assassination attempt vid.

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