It's pretty close to my own, as well

except I come at it from a conservative libertarian stance

the interesting thing is seeing his angle, and noting the subtleties.

I'm really apathetic on abortion, TBH

the differences, and realizing that's where politics needs to go back to.

I think it's absolutely a valid fear as far as the Conservative side of things goes

that they might actually try to ban ALL forms of abortion.

And I'm not for that, either.

Abortion needs to be a procedure considered solemnly, like surgery or chemo.

I absolutely don't think an organization like Planned Parenthood takes it sufficiently seriously, especially given it's roots.

And the fanaticism surrounding the process is absolutely top-tier disgusting.

Oh, PP getting public money I'm against. I'm not really for anyone getting public money like that without good cause.

Can also agree that if it's surgery, it needs to be treated as such. We've somehow it a point where surgery is treated rather flippantly overall.

im not for paying for another individuals mistakes

I dont mind helping victims of rape however

I don't know where this new blasé attitude toward abortion came from. It's bizarre.

@GingaBomber I'm of the stance, that in the case of rape, it should be paid as part of the punishment.

I dont mind helping the person.

Not exactly the

Payment part? Well, its part of paying damages

But what if the woman decides to keep the child?

And its a false accusation?

If it's a false accusation things get much harder. Part of the issue is that if you just subsidize it, you create an incentive to lie.

From what I've read, bans fail to reduce abortion rates.

In communist Romania, it caused health problens

Including a spike in Hep C rates

Yes and that is why you want a 3 party abortion system where you have to talk to a "pro life" faction that wants to save the child.

Than 72h to think about that

and THEN you might (or not) get the Abortion

Id argue to just privatise the whole thing

I dont want to pay tax dollars for this.

Then of course we get the american healthcare, which is also a joke

Yeah you still need a "neutral" instance in that shit so that it doesn't get crazier...

as for abortions: Aren't most aborted childs black?

I don't think so. However, most planned parenthood centres are placed near black areas.

I like the idea of the crisis health centres. They talk to the patients, offers them other methods, before giving the abortion.

Yes, it's about supporting a culture of life. Discouraging the termination of pregnancies and then wanting to be "hands off" from there out isn't a pro-life stance, in my opinion.

I think that if South Africa wants to turn farms over to blacks, they should have to pass a basic test to see if they are compodent, "Why do Americans lover Peanut butter?"

Naa, Blacks are Geniusses, that's why their Countrys work so well...

How many urbanites from anywhere in the world can answer that question?

Also, I have a question, Is it just me or does Tim's viewer base consist of a lot of conservatives? I was just wondering people's take on this, because since he himself is a social liberal I expected more centrists and centre leftists

NO, its sentient people with their own mind and thoughts. That doesn't translate to Conservative.

According to the Political Compasses I'm either a Lefty or Centrist for example.

They are just not the hard far left Communist type...

I don't mean that, I mean most of the people in his yt comment section seem to identify

but except for those, the Viewership is pretty diverse I'd say.

Conservative also doesn't always mean right wing even if that's what most people use it to mean.

as conservative

from what they say

Like I was pretty vocal about gay rights 10-15 years ago, and now that that's pretty well established I'd like to conserve that as it is.

But yeah I'd say he has a sizable conservative audience, but I think a lot of that is just that you don't hear from conservatives much in most parts of the internet

As for the people here the main commonality seems to be anti-authoritarianism but I'd say there's a fair amount of diversity aside from that

Well I am for sure a centrist

Got the political compass test to prove it

I myself am a rather acceptive social liberal, so I'm kind of pissed with the lack of objectivity and political diversity with the left nowadays. I'm just iritated with their lack of interesit in centrist and conservative opinions. I see few of them in centrist yt videos

I am an offensive moderate, I offend everyone

As a centrist i respect klan's ability to offend everyone

and I see more on the conservative side on centrist videos, which iritates me, the left is supposed tio be diverse

Today that commitment to diversity appears to be skin deep

^

My propasal on how to stop "Gun Violence", Every student has to take a firearms safety class. DNC-OH NO YOU ARE TEACHING KIDS TO USE GUNS! GOP-OH NO, YOU ARE MANDATING EDUCATIONS! Libertarians- OH NO, MORE TAX PAYER FUNDED CRAP!

The problem stems from the fact that the left started assuming they had the moral high ground

this is because for a very long while they did have the moral high ground

Last big issue they made a push for was LGBT rights

so as a result they tried

the moral high ground? and ended up being shallow and actually authoritarian

Well they did get a large base from that

after all i dont think people here would argue that you should not be able to marry a legal adult of the same sex if they consent

Then intersectionality got introduced to them

tbh, as someone who's actually bent I don't care at all for gay marriage

Yeah, I think the closest thing to arguing that you'd see here is that some would say the government should have no place in marriages

I think marriage is just not really that important

When you say dont care you mean you're against it or you dont consider it an issue?

I mean I just dont consider

it an issue as much

ah, gotcha

as other lgbt things

```As for the people here the main commonality seems to be anti-authoritarianism```
Naa, I'm pretty authoritaon on one or two issues...

Considering in the US at least that marriage has monetary benefits associated I'd consider it a big deal that gay people should be able to marry the people they want

Intersectionality basically says that you should help people with their issues even if you dont know anything about them

Thank god I come from Ireland, it's probably the most politicaly diverse and acceptive western countryin europe I know of

Aside from it just being a moral issue that people should have equal rights of course

Now you have a bunch of people who have literally no knowledge about political events or processes and no reason to do what they do save for the moral superiority they had when they were campaigning for LGBT rights trying to persuade people about other issues

Thus emotional/moral arguments become the norm when you try to mobilize the base into action

That's just kind of the issue with progressivism being so ingrained in the left. It's always a forward motion. Once you achieve your goal you have to find a new one or you lose a lot of your purpose

It's amusing because most of the actual people who paint themselves as, "progressive," only recently started accepting gays and such

*points at Hillary*

And those who really did just care about the issues rather than making a career out of them are then going to drop out of the race leaving behind the crazies and the inexperienced

*coughs* Bernie Sanders

Theres other problems too, now that your base assumes they have the moral high ground and feel that what they're doing is right you have everything you need from them

discussion of the issues becomes counteractive to your cause since it can only splinter or divide your movement

I agree, but no movement should accept extreme authoritarians and virtue signallers

Im sure that there are people who have investigated the issues and think that what the left is doing is correct, morally and otherwise.

As in they should debate them I mean

Right. I have never considered myself traditionalist, much closer to anti-traditionalist in the past, but I think we do a bad job at remembering history's important lessons.
Like we all know 'the path to hell is paved with good intentions', but so many people just hear the saying and dismiss it because it's just a popular saying and those sorts of things rarely get given good explanations other than "everyone knows that"

not kick them out

straight away

Makes sense caustic

Although authoritarians should be kicked out asap, they will only corrupt and seek to control the movement

yeah but some authoritarians are just misinformed