nothing rewires anything

weights just change

I don't think we have to go straight to 'Nazi doctors' in order to advance medical science.

Oh wait, sorry, forgot, that's not real science. <:Kappa:327142715592540171>

How else would you propose doctors experiment on live human brains in order to change the way they perceive the world in a way that wouldn’t be considered torture?

Experiment on non human brains first

Volunteers second

@Deller If we ever get to the point where we can keep a brain alive in a jar, I'm sure somebody will donate their brain for science

It's easy to say 'we'll never', until someone does.

Except you can’t torture volunteers? You can thank shit like the Stanford Prison Experiments for that

Even if we can keep a brain alive in a jar, how do we know how that brain currently perceives the world? Hell, how would it even perceive the world?

There is a reason there is a series of animal trials and other rules before moving onto humans. The idea being to work out the kinks on animals before human trails, decreasing the chance it will end poorly

There are significant and extensive clinical trial research protocols for any medication, what the fuck makes you think those will not be developed for medication that is actively able to modify neurological connections? This reeks of scaremongering, anti-scientific, Luddism.

I’m fairly certain it takes more than medication to rewire the way a human brain perceives the world

Because just taking medication is going to be more treatment, less cure

And they will probably be much more different than surgery.

They would be something that probably entirely new

Although could still come in pill form

Eh, I wouldn't go that far, but you brought up a good example earlier with the MRI machine. Yeah, it's hard to imagine us doing a lot about mental conditions right now, today, without our current level of understanding and technology, but to say that 'we will never reach that point' is just cynnical. Again, try explaining what an MRI even is to a victorian-era physician, much less how it actually works.

All cures for anything we have today were once believed to be impossible.

And the methods of discovering many cures are largely considered barbaric by today’s standards & would never fly in the scientific community today

A lot of our knowledge of the brain came as a result of lobotomies. Great for research, less great for the patients.

We are developing ways to grow organs without a host. Ever increasing computation power allow for ever better simulation and design work. While it might be true these rules and ideas slow research, it does not stop it

For your example, rather than lobotomizing people, we need to wait for natural brain damage. Well, if too call crashing a car going 100 as natural that is

That's besides the point that there is always types who will chase after rather unethical science.

But at what point do governments step in & start extending these grown test subjects human rights? Hell Sophia the robot AI was just given Saudi Arabian citizenship.

Then we have lost the culture war and a the only future advancement for humanity is to nuke all the world.

When science is made illegal, then humans are no longer allowed to think

If I’ve learned anything it’s the fact that the American government shits all over science every chance it gets

More reason to fight for smaller government

That I agree with

With luck smart people will get us to mars and we can leave the US behind and just offer people free trips to mars as compensation for being a test subject.

#lifegoals

Hopefully once we start colonizing other planets we tell the governments of Earth to fuck off, but I’d be willing to bet even on Mars we’ll have shit like Martian America or Martian Russia

I mean, eventually

But at least there is a chance of getting enough people at the beginning to tell the Earth governments to fuck off

No matter where we go, no matter where we colonize in the galaxy, we are always going to have countries like Russia and America, and even North Korea

the extremely free all the way down to the extremely controlled. no matter how far we advance in tech, medicine, anything really, opinion will always be different when it comes to each individual person.

The world will chance, human nature will not. At least, not significantly. I do not believe we have changed much since the times of the romans.

I agree lol, we have changed a lot, I was talking just opinion in general, because even back then, opinions on a lot were different too.

https://globalnews.ca/news/3985969/jessica-simpson-lawsuit-paparazzi-photo/

http://deadstate.org/satanic-temple-argues-that-missouris-extreme-abortion-laws-violate-their-religious-freedomfbrefreshforce/

https://www.rt.com/usa/417300-mccabe-resigns-fbi-deputy/

so long and thanks for all the warrants

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lV4bTbYGwU

SHOULD WE HAVE AN INTERNET BILL OF RIGHTS? - Tim Pool

Play freebird

Shouldnt the amendments already apply to it?

if you're operating your own radio

and following the FCC regs

you can!

we don't need an internet bill of rights lmao just use end to end encryption for everything

vpns

lol

ShillVPNs

https://therightstuff.biz/2018/01/29/tds250-love-wins/

@Good#2640 can you not spam the same link in 3 channels kthx

He's gotta shill that sweet sweet enoch

oh shit it's 00:10

https://www.rt.com/news/417235-hm-sweden-socks-allah/

heading to Seattle

👌 anything interesting going on in seattle?

he might be trying out that Amazon Go store.... steal something for me while you're there 😉

im going to break the amazon store

that guy linus didnt even try to find an exploit in the system

Im not going to actually do any damage or steal anything

but Im 100% confident I can find errors

basically

I can and will find ways to effectively steal large amounts of items without actually stealing or doing anything illegal

Get a large blanket and throw it over yourself and the rack

and then pull an indiana jones and swap something out

that wont work, they have weight sensors

there are reports that kids rearranging the shelves is terror on the system

hence the indiana jones

wieghts are posted on items

if you take off items and replace them with similar weighted items could you make the system think you put back the more expencive item?

imo it would be a ton easire if they used rfid chips for barcodes

but afaik they are not using rfid

only optics and weights

rfid would be overkill for most of these items tbh

(Hey, sorry, I know this is non-relevant: does this place have any rules? I tried asking in <#398973785426100234> )

@Rain only rule is dont be a dick

just be respectful afaik

Aight, fair

I suppose it's alright if I bring up some article I wrote? I mean, I'm not here to self-promote (I'm not a journalist), I'd just like if someone with better credientals looked into it or so

@Kane.🇺🇸.Nexus either way, nobody is going to be able to systematically steal from amazon

when they do inventory and see a loss they can go back to the footage and see who stole it

it's like trying to steal from a casino

except this casino has 100 cameras pointed at you

they have people going on twitter worried that they had shoplifted and Amazon says keep it

Nope

I can do it

I guess you should ditch journalism and start robbing banks for a living

You can rob amazon now?

😂

if you rob a bank the feds go after you, if you steal from amazon they say no worries... big difference

i mean once it's fleshed out they will simply ban you if you keep stealing

same with fraud like what linus (kinda) did

Linus Theft Tips ™

i agree though

he diddn't even attempt to steal it

he just put it on a shelf and picked it back up and waved it around some more

of course amazon was going to detect that

tbh amazon go isn't that big of a deal

what are the requirements of Amazon go? can I use a dummy card with 1$ on it?

How much money does it try to authenticate?

you just need the app afaik

Can I get a burner card from 7-11?

I think linus said $1

I don't know about burner cards

buy a visa gift card for 5$

sign up with fake name

walk in take everything walk out

ya it is only calculated and charged after exit

What if you walk in and grab someone else's bag?

there are so many exploits I cant even count

the reality is Amazon is running a trial of honor system shopping and nothing more

ya even RFID could be countered with a shield

RFID would be stupid for this anyways

they dont use rfid

would cost them what, 50c per chip?

not worth it

what if identical twins walk in and grab different things and walk past each toher several times

i thought they were less than .05c

if they walk past each other it doesn't matter, body detection and tracking is fairly straightforward given a point cloud constructed from multiple camera angles

throw a blanket over both of them at the same time

or a jacket

now that's evil

Doesn't it calculate your inventory when you walk out the door? I mean. It does give some kind of timer on how long you spent inside the store based on Linus video

what is a group of clowns had to go shopping at the same time???

haha

or Anons in masks?

identical clowns

i bet I can walk in, take something, and walk out without paying in one minute

theft misdemeanor comes to mind

you have to be charged

not if they publicize that they dont care becuase it cant hapen

@Kane.🇺🇸.Nexus not quite, they send a quick verification charge

I doubt tim will make a how to vid on it

Im going to try, and Im going to explain how we did it

that would be illegal imo

it will be a fascinating legal battle

@ping I mean you have to be charged with the crime

oh lmao

amazon would have to prove intent

but no im not going to steal anything

Oh man this Amazon go seems like a terrible idea now when I finished Linus video on it. Yikes

Im just going to prove the system is broken

so if you get banned and come back with a ski mask and take a bunch of shit again there's intent to steal without a reasonable doubt

now the question is

remember this is just a beta test after 2 years of development

how are they going to ban people

they would have to have facial recognition going on

It would be great to uncover security holes to the extent Amazon issues an emergency fix

that would be awesome the day after your vid AZ shuts down the store for a week

Aren't there workers (like security) in the store though?

at the moment, yes

I mean, I suppose?

Yeah

workers yes but how much attention are they paying?

If someone is walking in with a ski mask on and grabbing something quickly from someone elses hand and runs out, I'm pretty sure they'll be alerted, or so I suppose

there are people before you enter the store so you might have to remove masks

what about wide brimmed hats?

I suppose they also have to be removed so they can map your face and put it in their databank, otherwise you'd be known as the "sombrero man". (/s)

ofc they are going to implement some form of facial recognition

some systems just need a reactionary form of update

I dont think they can sit there and think of all the criminal shit that could happen, since they're probably soyboys and such

what?

they'll account for problems after they happen, not before

it's been in development for how long now?

it's pretty accurate

accurate given a probable scenario

criminal ingenuity is what develops security

yes but the whole point of building the technology is to account for edge cases

part of the development is finding as many as possible and having the system account for it

live trials are obviously the best place to get good data

but they aren't idiots

yeah if they already know how to deal with a 3-man horse costume buying cereal id be surprised

it doesnt make you an idiot if you cant think of every conceivable way to game the system

making the system 100% automatic wasn't the goal

they are doing this to make money

which means detect anomalies and unusual activity and direct them towards a human

is there some form of entry card?

look at vids

you have to enter using your phone and the companion app

so CQC some other employee off camera, take their ID card, stakeout the guard change times, don horse mask, get in, get reses puffs, get out, MGS6 confirmed

visa gift card, fake name, new account

This is btw kinda scary, but I think Tim had some similar thought in a video; what if, in the future, all stores are kinda like Amazon Go and some place deems your thoughts to be "hateful"; they demand Amazon Go or the similar stores to shut down your account, and since you've been going to the stores, they have already mapped out your face, how you move, what you buy on average, how long you spend there etc.

Wouldn't that lead to you being banned from all stores essentially? And because of the algorithm knowing who you are, you couldn't do a fake account or new account

yea 3wasnt that a black mirror episode

Nosedive, kinda.

if the app is necessary it can be tied to you somehow im guessing, especially with the sub-human level sounds that track phones and shit nowadays

yea

I think China actually rates people though.

This is the first in Google https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/11/10/whats-your-citizen-trust-score-china-moves-rate-its-1-3-billion-citizens/851365001/

And uhm http://www.wired.co.uk/article/chinese-government-social-credit-score-privacy-invasion

So this is more like Black mirror, but still kinda freaky

they also have a catch-all app for nearly everything they do in hongkong

don't even need to probe they can watch your life in real time

It's step 1 I guess, but what should be private in such a dense country?

if the score hurts criminals who go to prison, its not unlike what happens in the US already

and there are probably a lot of cases of criminals finishing their sentences and not getting watched after, no one declared them healthy enough to re-enter society but "time's up and we need space"

shit I needed a rehabilitation period after college, even

we could definitely use institutions like that

would people here be ok with spying if it was only done on proven criminals for a probationary period after release?

It's a nasty topic, I don't necessarily believe it would actually help, but it could in theory improve the "feeling" of safety that people have, and reduce confidence in criminal behavior being acceptable

I can't get the player to work but the dude in the ep. 3 thumbnail looks like a JoJo's character

and I think any human being can become a criminal at any point, so it'd be less about that and more about someone who goes way off the edge, shit this is basically becoming psycho pass/china rating system already

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10439

Reeducation campus

how the fuck is a "diversity course" valuable to someone's career

"Erin Tofte, Wenatchee’s director of diversity and inclusion, stressed the importance of the requirement based on the school’s demographics.

“We have instituted this requirement as we live in a very diverse area with 55% of our students being students of color,” she told Campus Reform. “We feel it is important that all of our students are comfortable living, learning, and working in multicultural environments and we want to equip them with the tools to thrive in every situation.”"

students of color need to be comfortable with working with students of color

55% is an extreme over-representation compared to the US population

I wonder if ANY taxpayer in the area asked for this

I heard that leftists are real generous as long as its not their own money being involved

Oh yeah. lol

They're really good about spending other people's money.

Good at is another question entirely

I'm just talking about amounts.

Good at wasting other people’s money*

Or to put it another way: Good at wasting other people’s money to make them feel better about themselves*

"We need to take in as many migrants and refugees as possible!"
"...as long as they're nowhere near where I live..."

Bridges not walls but let me just build this wall around my mansion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW1TXfxw6-o

little people

tim sure likes blinking

you know what he likes more?

chelsy manning

#SOTU https://youtu.be/j2Jk2asBFK4

wtf, was watching Daily wire livestream of State of the Union address, had about 7k viewers. Randomly cuts out only to see it has been copyright claimed by CNN. What's weird is they were watching Cnet, unless they are a part of the CNN network.

white house has its own youtube, thats fantastic

*says 1 sentence*

*claps for himself*

I said something.. *claps for a minute**

but that's what a SOTU is

Isis leader: Al-bag-daddy

Did anyone watch the dem rebuttal?

nope, how was it?

it was terribe. all they did was ramble about how Blumpf needs to get impeached while crying into their pussy hats

Terrible but entertaining to watch. Kennedy is really low energy and he was drooling the whole time.

Hope the Dems try pushing him for presidency.

same, it'd be a freakshow

What rebuttal?

Though id rather not watch, not a fan of watching leftists "argue". It just makes me irritated.

Thanks.

Lol trump said “booby” 😂 https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/politics/trump-state-of-the-union/?utm_term=.54262d8699d5

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Was the only source a democrat in a closed door meeting in which all other participants do not recall hearing it?

Also, Jordan Peterson had another talk on the Joe Rogan podcast.

Thank you my friend.