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2018-01-06 00:59:55 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

2018-01-06 01:13:02 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I assume you mean channels you haven't already collaborated with, in which case I would recommend Troy Leavitt

2018-01-06 01:21:40 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Tim would have to create roles with permission to view the message history

2018-01-06 01:22:27 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Well he did just create the server

2018-01-06 01:24:34 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@Timcast By the way, it would be helpful for people to easily determine whether or not you're online by setting up the server to display your role separately from other members. You can access that through Server Settings -> Roles

2018-01-06 01:25:37 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

He's an admin by default since he's the server owner

2018-01-06 06:52:59 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Oh no, apparently Shia LeBouf has raised another flag.

2018-01-06 06:53:08 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I wonder how long it will be before 4chan finds it this time.

2018-01-06 16:06:33 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Yes, that's a very good idea. It's how I've got my own server set up - the invite link sends yo to #lobby, but that's the only thing you can see until you're assigned a role.

2018-01-06 16:08:51 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Yeah, the bot solutions are nice, but they're usually pretty complicated to set up

2018-01-06 16:09:55 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I'm also partial to the IRC role system of Everyone < Voice < Halfop < Op(erator) < Admin

2018-01-06 16:10:03 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

keeps things simple for roles

2018-01-06 16:11:46 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

None that I'm aware of

2018-01-06 16:15:30 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

What if we find a different gorilla fight video? Are we allowed to post that, or can we *only* repost that one?

2018-01-06 16:19:52 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

Nobody here is anything except for Tim

2018-01-06 16:19:58 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

We're all nothing

2018-01-06 16:20:08 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

Existence is meaningless

2018-01-06 16:25:35 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Could maybe do Timcasters

2018-01-06 16:25:56 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

dunno, that may be too close to Timcast

2018-01-06 16:26:03 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

could cause confusion

2018-01-06 16:31:32 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

It could also be a portmanteau of pool and hooligan, which is how I read it until you said that

2018-01-06 16:34:13 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

:-/ It's a tad long...

2018-01-06 16:36:00 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@SmallPrice I think you're assuming honor where there may not be any. Or at least, I know I don't have that much honor.

2018-01-06 16:52:04 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@Timcast Your server is growing fast enough that you may want to consider creating a role to give to users that you would trust in helping to manage the server and the people on it, especially given how often you typically travel. It would suck to spend X hours on a flight and get to your hotel/hostel, log on to Discord, and find that while you were out, a troll got onto the server and managed to invite a bunch of their troll buddies, but nobody could get rid of them.

2018-01-06 16:52:58 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

There are some bots you could look into getting in here that have automated protections for that as well, though

2018-01-06 17:23:00 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

One of the other servers I'm on only has about 5 moderators for over a thousand users, but it's also a pretty quiet server overall

2018-01-06 17:42:52 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Yeah, a much better rule than "No hate speech" would be "No speech", because that's purely objective. You can't talk.

2018-01-06 17:42:58 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  


2018-01-06 17:43:24 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

But duct tape is silver

2018-01-06 18:29:24 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Every time I'm granted power on a forum/channel/whatever, the first thing I do is I ban myself

2018-01-06 18:29:34 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Because if I've got the power to ban people, why not start with the worst offender?

2018-01-06 18:31:04 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Back when I was in scanlation (on IRC) I was an operator on several channels and I was admin on one, but that was mostly because the group's leader let their channel lapse and I reclaimed it for them

2018-01-06 18:31:18 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I think the biggest channel I was in back then was 75 people

2018-01-06 18:37:33 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@WOODY Except for the part where you have to figure out what permissions to give the bot so that it can do everything for you

2018-01-06 18:37:53 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Yeah, most Discord bots have anti-raid utilities

2018-01-06 18:38:54 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

The bot I use didn't have good documentation around what permissions it needed, so it took me a few days to get everything right

2018-01-06 18:40:10 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I got one bot set up right. Why would I switch to another bot and go through another potential headache?

2018-01-06 18:42:32 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Maybe you should make another text channel for general discussion so that the distinction is more apparent

2018-01-06 18:42:54 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@Kori Tainaka I think <#398973785426100234> is for shitposting

2018-01-06 18:51:56 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

From what I've read, the Cole Memo was a "guidance document" and not an actual law. I don't know if that affects the outcome of its repeal

2018-01-06 18:54:04 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Well that and the fact that big pharma pushes opioids these days

2018-01-06 18:55:22 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I'm reading a lot of speculation that the repeal of the Cole Memo may push Congress to fully legalize marijuana

2018-01-06 18:55:44 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Anyone up for starting the Timcast party? πŸ˜‹

2018-01-06 18:56:10 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

We can have Tim as our leader

2018-01-06 18:56:41 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@Timcast What if we democratically elect you as our leader?

2018-01-06 18:58:40 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@Porcelain chips I'm not sure the Democrat or Republican parties as a whole are self-aware enough to realize that

2018-01-06 18:59:45 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@GingaBomber I was one of those

2018-01-06 19:00:01 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  


2018-01-06 19:00:29 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Just because it's a "narrative" doesn't mean it doesn't have some truth to it

2018-01-06 19:02:08 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Honestly, I think what we need before another alternative party (because technically, the Libertarians *are* an alternative) is term limits and age limits for all political offices

2018-01-06 19:07:53 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@GingaBomber You find American politics interesting? I prefer satire based on American politics:

The Ephebians believed that every man should have the vote. Every five years someone was elected to be Tyrant, provided he could prove that he was honest, intelligent, sensible, and trustworthy. Immediately after he was elected, of course, it was obvious to everyone that he was a criminal madman and totally out of touch with the view of the ordinary philosopher in the streets looking for a towel. And then five years later they elected another one just like him, and really it was amazing how intelligent people kept on making the same mistakes.

- Terry Pratchett, *Small Gods*

2018-01-06 19:12:13 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@Deleted User @WOODY Helping others is something that's heavily emphasized by Christian values, upon which most of Western civilization is built, but the main focus of Christianity's "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" is the poor and disabled that are right in front of you, as opposed to the Democrats' "Oh no, these people halfway around the world are so disadvantaged! We must help them!"

2018-01-06 19:12:42 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@Timcast At this point I'd almost recommend creating a new <#398858182455459853> and renaming this channel

2018-01-06 19:13:02 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@GingaBomber I think you mean 10 minutes after they join

2018-01-06 19:14:13 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I don't know if I wasn't able to see anything for 10 minutes or everybody was just silent for >10 minutes when I joined last night

2018-01-06 19:15:18 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Yeah, that's true

2018-01-06 19:15:22 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Maybe that was it

2018-01-06 19:17:34 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Oooh, we could call Tim's followers "The Pool"

2018-01-06 19:18:59 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

At this point, basically

2018-01-06 19:19:13 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Anarchy with some leadership

2018-01-06 19:20:07 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

No clue

2018-01-06 21:39:00 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Maybe it's just really small

2018-01-06 21:39:21 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Squirrel-sized transmission tower

2018-01-06 21:41:51 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@Kori Tainaka Actually, I think the even worse thing is that they didn't make the mods display separately from all the other users

2018-01-06 21:42:35 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@Bruce That's still more power than the rest of us have

2018-01-06 21:42:56 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

It also sounds distinctly anti-free speech, which is odd for Tim

2018-01-06 21:46:08 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Eh, why stop there? Gas everybody.

2018-01-06 21:47:06 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I think we should ban the word "Gas" as hate speech :P

2018-01-06 21:48:34 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Wait, I had a better idea than banning "gas" as hate speech

2018-01-06 21:48:38 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Ban "hate speech" as hate speech

2018-01-06 21:50:53 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I can see it now. "Hey ServerMember12534, how's it going?"

2018-01-06 21:51:06 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

"Oh, not bad ServerMember 9812

2018-01-06 21:52:22 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

But @Timcast, haven't you heard that numbers can be racist?

2018-01-06 21:52:30 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

We should use only symbols

2018-01-06 22:17:24 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Oh hey @Timcast, if it helps any, not everybody is a total slave to what the media says. I believe everything you say 100% except for the bit where you say not to trust everything you say.

2018-01-06 22:19:52 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

We should get a role for that 😝

2018-01-06 22:22:43 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@Bryanluvzyou Half the time the message of the day in the good news channel would just be "There isn't a nuclear holocaust yet"

2018-01-06 22:23:08 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

The other half of the time it would be "man rescues kitten from tree"

2018-01-06 22:23:30 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Well, traditional rulers are too inaccurate

2018-01-06 22:23:52 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

We need to use hands as a measurement, like when measuring a horse's height

2018-01-06 22:32:37 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Oh boy. You know it's going to be an eventful week when Yvette Falarca makes the news (again)

2018-01-06 22:59:28 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

@BigBoppinBoslet I used to play World of Tanks. I also used to play Armored Warfare.

2018-01-06 23:02:34 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

I liked Armored Warfare before they came out with their new model in January of last year. I liked it over World of Tanks because there was a PVE mode

2018-01-06 23:03:13 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

Their new model is just less fun for me overall, because apparently the devs decided that the XM1A3 was overpowered, so they nerfed just about everything about the tank

2018-01-06 23:03:26 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

The XM1A3 was the first tier 10 tank I got in AW

2018-01-06 23:05:54 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

As for WoT, I don't think I ever got past Tier 9. I got to the E-75, then I decided to grind down the American heavy tree and I think I only got to the T-32 (or whichever tank came after the T-29 in the tree. I don't remember exactly which one it was)

2018-01-06 23:06:33 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

@BigBoppinBoslet To be fair, I have all the Tier 10 MBTs in AW

2018-01-06 23:07:22 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

I had no plans to get the E100 when I finally got my E75

2018-01-06 23:08:53 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

Between the Tiger II, the E75, and the E100 I think the E75 is the best overall (for its tier)

2018-01-06 23:09:49 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  


2018-01-06 23:10:18 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

We should probably move this conversation over there

2018-01-06 23:11:32 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

Yeah, since almost all the top-tier tanks never made it past blueprints

2018-01-06 23:12:24 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

Even then they only had two Maus prototypes, and only one of them had a proper turret

2018-01-06 23:14:22 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

I never really saw the Chi-Ri in WoT since I was in the upper tiers by the time the Japanese tanks were introduced

2018-01-06 23:14:42 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

I played the Pzkw IV back when it still had the Vader-helm Panther turret as an upgrade

2018-01-06 23:15:00 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

and the 75-L70 cannon

2018-01-06 23:15:17 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

Now *that's* fake news

2018-01-06 23:16:32 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

I started in late '09 or early '10, about 4 months after my brother started. I can't remember when exactly.

2018-01-06 23:16:45 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

He doesn't play any more either

2018-01-06 23:18:08 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

You want to see what my brother's stats were before he stopped playing?

2018-01-06 23:19:07 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

He was in the top 1%

2018-01-06 23:19:12 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

By stats, he probably still is

2018-01-06 23:19:35 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

And here are my stats before I stopped playing

2018-01-06 23:19:56 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

My "Recent" stats were helped by the fact that I was playing in more platoons with my brother and players of his tier

2018-01-06 23:22:15 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

Yeah. You know (knew?) ForcestormX?

2018-01-06 23:23:08 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

Oh yeah. I lurked on that from time to time too.

2018-01-06 23:23:20 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

Didn't that outgrow the forum post limit something like 3 times?

2018-01-06 23:25:09 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

Hmm, it's slowed down

2018-01-06 23:25:51 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

Only 23k? You guys are slacking off.

2018-01-06 23:26:18 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

I'll ask ForcestormX to lean on The Chieftain's shoulder to get you guys to post more πŸ˜›

2018-01-06 23:26:25 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  


2018-01-06 23:27:56 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

Unfortunately, yes

2018-01-06 23:28:00 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

ForcestormX was in on it

2018-01-06 23:28:52 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

I think my brother even went and got one of the WoT mods that replaced the crew voices with MLP clips

2018-01-06 23:29:50 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

Well, neither does (did) Top Gear, but there was a Top Gear voiceover pack as well

2018-01-06 23:30:03 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

I tried it for a while, but I was dissatisfied with the clip choices

2018-01-06 23:31:04 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@Timcast If you haven't already started researching it, you may want to cover the Spectre and Meltdown issues with processors

2018-01-06 23:34:12 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

I think that's been his avatar for years now

2018-01-06 23:54:52 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@Kori Tainaka lol @ timfoil

2018-01-06 23:57:28 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

It's nice to have a somewhat-centrist server

2018-01-06 23:59:05 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Well, there goes the server. /leaves

2018-01-06 23:59:46 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Am I the only one who finds it weird how wide the slashes here in Discord are?

2018-01-07 00:00:00 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

they're at least 1.3 times as wide as I think they should be

2018-01-07 00:03:23 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I think it might just be the font that Discord uses

2018-01-07 00:03:32 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I don't know if there's a way to customize that

2018-01-07 00:04:20 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I just looked in my profile settings and I don't see anything that looks like it

2018-01-07 00:11:34 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Well, funny is subjective

2018-01-07 00:11:45 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

You show up in mine

2018-01-07 00:11:56 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

or at least, you did a moment ago

2018-01-07 00:12:00 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

and again now

2018-01-07 00:12:05 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

that's weird

2018-01-07 00:12:18 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Maybe your connection to the server Tim has selected isn't that good

2018-01-07 00:12:56 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  


2018-01-07 00:13:08 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  


2018-01-07 00:13:11 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

ah, right

2018-01-07 00:13:15 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I forgot Discord has /me

2018-01-07 00:15:13 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

┬─┬ γƒŽ( γ‚œ-γ‚œγƒŽ)

2018-01-07 00:15:42 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Needed to unflip the table that @Jihadtangle flipped. Can't have disorder in the newsroom

2018-01-07 00:19:24 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Yeah, but I disabled TTS on my profile

2018-01-07 00:19:59 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I've disabled TTS on my own Discord server as well

2018-01-07 00:21:18 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

It's just my personal server for me and my friends. We use it for D&D mainly

2018-01-07 00:22:00 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I've got it set up for when (if) we get a larger userbase as well, but there aren't many people on it yet

2018-01-07 00:23:11 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@AC says sub to PewDiePie Not yet. I think the admins and/or Tim need to decide on them

2018-01-07 00:23:54 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

My server has 8 members, a fake test member that I registered to figure out permissions with, and a bot

2018-01-07 00:25:35 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@AC says sub to PewDiePie Yeah, but I don't use it as an alt or a sock

2018-01-07 00:25:43 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I use it purely to test permissions for roles

2018-01-07 00:26:34 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Well, it's been open for a little over a day now

2018-01-07 00:27:24 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@AC says sub to PewDiePie I think the typical definition of an "alt" is a profile that most people don't know to link to you so that you can say controversial things and people won't get angry with you in particular

2018-01-08 05:06:10 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Just under 200 members

2018-01-08 05:06:46 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

It's much easier to create an instant invite and then just post it in the chat than to wonder at how many members there are

2018-01-08 05:07:22 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

And now there would be 197 total members

2018-01-08 05:07:39 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I am, apparently

2018-01-08 05:10:28 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

:/ I could have sworn those messages only pop up when someone first joins

2018-01-08 05:10:36 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I don't remember where to look on my own server for the setting

2018-01-08 13:22:23 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@GingaBomber Hard to say. I would be surprised if it more than doubles the current population, but I could be wrong. Tim does have quite a few Twitter followers.

2018-01-08 13:27:23 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I don't know if Tim plans to put out an invite link on Twitter, but I personally think that we probably need more moderators or a lobby channel and roles to delegate access to other channels before that happens, because anything posted on Twitter will be rife for brigading/raiding/trolling/etc.

2018-01-09 00:14:30 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I think most people's thought process on that was "Even if Donald represents the elite, HRC definitely doesn't represent the people."

2018-01-09 00:19:25 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Both the Alt Right and the Far Left misclassify Tim as supporting the opposite extreme, so it's not very surprising he made that list.

2018-01-09 00:24:26 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@Timcast inb4 Harbinger "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL"

2018-01-09 00:28:39 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  


2018-01-09 00:28:46 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Star Trek 5 was the last good ST movie

2018-01-09 00:29:55 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

To be fair, they're rebuilding the Extended Universe piecemeal

2018-01-09 00:30:15 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Timothy Zahn wrote "Thrawn" for Disney since they bought SW

2018-01-09 00:31:18 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

That's because Zahn is the only one who can properly write Thrawn

2018-01-09 00:33:50 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@GingaBomber Not retconned. They completely invalidated the old EU

2018-01-09 00:34:10 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Anything written for the EU prior to Disney's acquisition is non-canon

2018-01-09 00:35:00 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Well, if Disney let Zahn recreate Thrawn in the new EU, he'll probably push for Mara Jade, Talon Karrde, etc. as well

2018-01-09 00:35:25 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Now, after where Episode VIII went, I'm not sure they'll let him do Mara Jade, but the rest are still doable

2018-01-09 00:35:34 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

and Mara Jade could still be in the series

2018-01-09 00:35:37 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Yeah, Allegiance

2018-01-09 00:35:43 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I own all the Zahn books

2018-01-09 00:36:29 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

It's a short story, I have an edition of one of his other books (Outbound Flight maybe? can't remember) that has it

2018-01-09 00:37:52 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@GingaBomber Let's see... short is "about one standard Timothy Zahn chapter" or slightly longer

2018-01-09 00:38:33 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@GingaBomber And if I recall correctly, Allegiance is the book where they all server under Thrawn in the end, discounting the new Thrawn book written for the new EU

2018-01-09 00:39:02 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

It's been a few years since I last read any of the old-EU books he wrote, I should re-read them

2018-01-09 00:39:54 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I have yet to find a Timothy Zahn book I didn't like, even outside the SW EU books

2018-01-09 00:45:14 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@SmallPrice You can always start it back up

2018-01-09 00:46:12 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

After what they pulled in VIII I'm glad they didn't

2018-01-09 00:46:20 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

They wouldn't have done Heir to the Empire justice

2018-01-09 00:47:51 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@Grenade123 Did you watch Troy Leavitt's video on that?

2018-01-09 00:48:11 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@Madoc Valanor I think it's Yuuzan Vong

2018-01-09 00:51:01 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@SmallPrice I don't think so, because it's well established in the original trilogy that Palpatine is "Not a Good Person Β©"

2018-01-09 00:51:39 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Ergo, anything Palpatine would have done would be "the wrong thing to do"

2018-01-09 00:52:22 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Not that I'm aware of

2018-01-09 00:52:35 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Are we talking cosmetically or functionally?

2018-01-09 00:54:50 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Well, at least it's hard to confuse it with other medical centers

2018-01-09 00:55:53 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Hang on, I only got back from work about half an hour ago and I'm still catching up on news and stuff

2018-01-09 00:58:53 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Well, it was also designed to keep him alive

2018-01-09 00:58:59 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

It had life support systems

2018-01-09 00:59:03 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

it was minimal though

2018-01-09 05:36:23 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

@pukeblood "nookyoolahr" (exaggerated) is actually an accepted pronunciation of "nuclear", according to the dictionary

2018-01-09 05:38:46 UTC [Subverse #fake-news]  

I didn't say I thought it was right

2018-01-10 00:33:39 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@ping Nuclear reactors anywhere are very safe. The only major nuclear accidents in history were flukes or design flaws that have been fixed in newer plants

2018-01-10 00:35:25 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@ping The problem that caused Chernobyl was a design flaw that had already been fixed in reactors 10 years younger than it, and Fukushima's problem was the backup generators being flooded because the tsunami was larger than any recorded

2018-01-10 00:35:45 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I'm relatively sure the problem that caused Three Mile Island was also a design flaw that had already been fixed in newer plants

2018-01-10 00:37:01 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@Grenade123 > People are afraid of nuclear power because the EPA and the media tells them to be afraid of it despite not knowing shit about it.

2018-01-10 00:37:50 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

The waste issue was fixed, but Carter (I think) outlawed Breeder reactors in the U.S. because at some point the fuel is weapons-grade

2018-01-10 00:38:35 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Wind and solar are both affected by the weather, as well

2018-01-10 00:38:52 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

No matter how good your power grid is there will always be dead spots with nothing but solar/wind power

2018-01-10 00:39:17 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Not to mention solar panels rarely (if ever) actually pay for themselves on a consumer scale

2018-01-10 00:40:54 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@ping No, I don't have a source, but the people whose panels have payed for themselves most likely live in very sunny areas that rarely have clouds

2018-01-10 00:41:03 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@GingaBomber Not to mention mining the materials for the batteries

2018-01-10 00:43:14 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Actually, I think the best argument for nuclear power is that The Simpsons, which has a track record of foreshadowing (if not outright predicting) future events, features Homer Simpson working at a nuclear power plant

2018-01-10 00:44:01 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@GingaBomber Yeah, the least efficient part of a car's engine is the combustion reaction

2018-01-10 00:46:27 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  


2018-01-10 00:46:33 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Musk has been grandstanding

2018-01-10 00:47:44 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I think that's because he was going to concentrate funding on NASA, but it was still a *very* optimistic estimate

2018-01-10 00:52:25 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@ping I would argue that the moon is very worth going to because then we could build larger structures/ships in orbit due to the lower gravity

2018-01-10 00:53:03 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@ping No, you're not thinking large enough

2018-01-10 00:53:15 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I'm talking about things bigger than a mile

2018-01-10 00:53:55 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

There's still a larger risk of it falling out of LEO than falling out of LLO (Low Lunar Orbit) though

2018-01-10 00:55:28 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@ping The same way anything falls out of any orbit. It gets too heavy for the speed it's moving

2018-01-10 00:55:51 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  


2018-01-10 00:58:16 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Yes, its orbit would degrade slower, but it would degrade even more slowly in low lunar orbit

2018-01-10 00:58:24 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

It's more of a guarantee

2018-01-10 00:58:44 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

The people building it may

2018-01-10 00:59:45 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Oh, another reason to go to the moon, as @Dionara just mentioned, is getting stuff to the orbit to whatever you're building

2018-01-10 00:59:56 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

1/6th the gravity = less fuel to get materials up

2018-01-10 01:01:51 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@ping Would it be any harder than building a self-sustaining colony on Mars?

2018-01-10 01:02:12 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

If so, then that's the only reason not to colonize the moon

2018-01-10 01:02:55 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Mars has a minimal atmosphere

2018-01-10 01:03:09 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

We would still need some sort of covering for the colony

2018-01-10 01:04:50 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@Dionara Pretty sure the answer to that for all of us would be "No, I don't have a degree and I haven't taken classes on the subject"

2018-01-10 01:05:33 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Nuclear power I'm an armchair expert via my brother, who studied Nuclear Engineering for his B.S.

2018-01-10 01:06:31 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Now I'm becoming a bit less of an armchair expert in Materials Science via my brother since he's studying that for his Ph.D.

2018-01-10 01:06:42 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I find Mat.Sci. harder to understand than nuclear power

2018-01-10 01:08:16 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@CreativeRealms I believe NASA has proposed that for research expeditions

2018-01-10 01:09:25 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Basically, get out of Earth orbit, land on a comet, and use that to get closer to your objective before leaving again

2018-01-10 01:09:51 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@Grenade123 In theory, any comet should be structurally stable enough to ride. The only trick would be attaching to it for the ride

2018-01-10 01:10:06 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Oh, and picking one big enough

2018-01-10 01:11:45 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I think we need to get some more scientists in here too

2018-01-10 01:11:54 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

That way we aren't just speculating on everything

2018-01-10 01:12:44 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

About the only things I can speak with authority on are programming and nuclear power (again, thanks to my "armchair expert" status)

2018-01-10 01:13:13 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

And even in programming, I acknowledge there are languages I know basically nothing about

2018-01-10 01:15:46 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

The university I went to for Computer Science started with C and C++, then moved on to Java. Since graduating, I've worked mainly with Java and Javascript (I'm most qualified as a web developer nowadays)

2018-01-10 01:16:16 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I also know enough of the following to be "dangerous": Lisp, Erlang, Ada, FORTRAN

2018-01-10 01:16:39 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Oh, and Groovy and Kotlin

2018-01-10 01:16:48 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

but those are just Java with nicer syntax

2018-01-10 01:17:17 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I've looked into C# on occasion, but the companies I've worked for haven't been that big into C#

2018-01-10 01:17:34 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@ping I know there's more to it than that, but they're both supersets of Java

2018-01-10 01:17:48 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Any valid Java code is also valid Groovy/Kotlin code

2018-01-10 01:18:04 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

just like C++ is just a superset of C

2018-01-10 01:18:38 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Any valid C code is valid C++ code, ergo C++ is a superset of C

2018-01-10 01:19:00 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Give me one line of code that would compile under C but not under C++

2018-01-10 01:19:31 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Yes it does. It just has better syntax for those now, so people rarely use the old C pointer casts

2018-01-10 01:20:39 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I'm not well versed on struct initializers, so I can't speak to those

2018-01-10 01:21:31 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@ping But the compilers still have to support it

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