Treatable sure, but there’s a major difference between take this drug once and you’re good to go vs take this medication once a day every day

Of course.

Assuming that we'll never develop some form of medical tech capable of doing things we can't even imagine now is absurd.

holy heck hes live

Go explain an MRI to a doctor in the US civil war.

I sincerely doubt medicine will ever evolve to the point where humans have learned how to rewire a human brain

We're getting close to being able to stop Alzheimer's from spreading

It's not rewiring a brain, but it's the closest we've gotten to date

because the trials required to do so will almost assuredly be considered torture

being a furry is a mental illness

#facts

@ping I think the human condition is a mental illness

And unless we get the second coming of Nazi doctors who don’t give a shit about their patients o don’t see us ever getting there

then there is no point in classifing things as a mental illness

I thought the brain rewires the brain

nothing rewires anything

weights just change

I don't think we have to go straight to 'Nazi doctors' in order to advance medical science.

Oh wait, sorry, forgot, that's not real science. <:Kappa:327142715592540171>

How else would you propose doctors experiment on live human brains in order to change the way they perceive the world in a way that wouldn’t be considered torture?

Experiment on non human brains first

Volunteers second

@Deller If we ever get to the point where we can keep a brain alive in a jar, I'm sure somebody will donate their brain for science

It's easy to say 'we'll never', until someone does.

Except you can’t torture volunteers? You can thank shit like the Stanford Prison Experiments for that

Even if we can keep a brain alive in a jar, how do we know how that brain currently perceives the world? Hell, how would it even perceive the world?

There is a reason there is a series of animal trials and other rules before moving onto humans. The idea being to work out the kinks on animals before human trails, decreasing the chance it will end poorly

There are significant and extensive clinical trial research protocols for any medication, what the fuck makes you think those will not be developed for medication that is actively able to modify neurological connections? This reeks of scaremongering, anti-scientific, Luddism.

I’m fairly certain it takes more than medication to rewire the way a human brain perceives the world

Because just taking medication is going to be more treatment, less cure

And they will probably be much more different than surgery.

They would be something that probably entirely new

Although could still come in pill form

Eh, I wouldn't go that far, but you brought up a good example earlier with the MRI machine. Yeah, it's hard to imagine us doing a lot about mental conditions right now, today, without our current level of understanding and technology, but to say that 'we will never reach that point' is just cynnical. Again, try explaining what an MRI even is to a victorian-era physician, much less how it actually works.

All cures for anything we have today were once believed to be impossible.

And the methods of discovering many cures are largely considered barbaric by today’s standards & would never fly in the scientific community today

A lot of our knowledge of the brain came as a result of lobotomies. Great for research, less great for the patients.

We are developing ways to grow organs without a host. Ever increasing computation power allow for ever better simulation and design work. While it might be true these rules and ideas slow research, it does not stop it

For your example, rather than lobotomizing people, we need to wait for natural brain damage. Well, if too call crashing a car going 100 as natural that is

That's besides the point that there is always types who will chase after rather unethical science.

But at what point do governments step in & start extending these grown test subjects human rights? Hell Sophia the robot AI was just given Saudi Arabian citizenship.