are you from austria?

(and cause ppl want to use it to spread panic about islamification)

nope, germany

can you cite some cases from recent? you seem sure

“ Instagram is the Alt-Right’s new favorite haven “ by Will Sommer on the Daily Beast

Gab refugees move to Instagram while the website rebuilds itself. The media is now targeting them by putting pressure on the “ haven” . Expect this to happen everywhere.

http://archive.today/G7rN1

what happened to Gab?

it would be hilarious if instagram would go down too 😄

the only two cases that got international attention were Manfred Deix, and Gerhard Haderer
both for criticising Jesus and Christianity, both got convicted but won the appeal

this would bring censorship to the 'masses'

@shinsoo any citation? what year was this in?

1994, 2003

https://www.heldenderfreizeit.com/zeichner-manfred-deix-todestag/

gtg, i'll look for an article on Haderer later

https://www.axios.com/trump-birthright-citizenship-executive-order-0cf4285a-16c6-48f2-a933-bd71fd72ea82.html

trump to remove birthright citizenship in spite of constitution

@AdorableStormtrooper the short answer to what happened is this.

Gab has been Alex Jonesed

The media, Big Tech, and activists are trying to erase it from the internet.

they're really going Authoritarian while they have the power right now

Holy fucking shit, this is the 5th time someone brought up the birthright thing

Is it really that big?

Full blown. Ultimately they will fail. But things will be bad for years.

one would think that contradicting the constitution would be a big deal

And you get people trying to ban guns by quoting their own definition of the constitutions.

It’s going to get stalled in the courts regardless. It’s a wast of time

So basically, another day

As if the Constitution still applies, there's literal Racial Discrimination and a Surveillance State built into American Law now

^^

The govt doesn't need to take permission of the Congress to launch Wars

2nd Amendment has been fucked for decades too

1st got temp fucked in WW1

Fixed 40ish years ago

@AdorableStormtrooper not sure state surveillance goes against the constitution? explain

4th amendment

"unreasonable searches and seizures"? I spose that makes sense yeah

yup, right against unreasonable search and seizures

the 9th circuit court will chew up any attempt to revoke the 14th.

SCotUS can counterfuck the 9th

I agree that it's uh, a total violation of the American ideal of e pluribus unum.

didn't Trump put some Judges in the 9th Circuit? not enough?

Which is what people are banking on I suspect

Not only this but even if you want some form of restricted jus soli.

Which is fine.

I disagree but that's an argument that can be had I think, sure.

Even then the idea of forcing constitutional changes through the executive branch.

It isn't the executive branch's perogative to legislate.

jus soli is dumb, no one has it now except US and Canada, you're just begging people to take advantage of this arrangement

I love the 'conservatives' who rightfully critiqued Obama's expansion of executive power now seemingly have no criticism here.

Hey go figure.

Who'd want to be fucking consistent.

Thank God im not a Conservative :D

'No one has it besides the US and Canada'.

Whelp, that's not true.

i can see your point tho

who else got it

Dominantly south and central american countries. No European countries come to mind.

Tbh I see some value in people abusing precedent

Though several European countries have restricted jus soli.

Most of them only see a problem that they are getting a solution to.

Without noticing the mount of power this gives the govt

But, Mexico, Jamacia, Dominican Republic, Brazil, Bolivia, Belize, Argentina etc.

macho the hypocrisy on both sides is at least consistent who can forget many liberals calling dick cheney darth cheney for expanding the suvielance state then not giving a shit when obama did it

Lot more.

I agree, Roman.

Entirely.

people will contort their views on many issues depending on which party is in power

Honestly, I agree as well, I think its gonna just waste time, but well, trump has proved me wrong alot of times so....

lol at a whole generation of leftists twiddling their thumbs and reposting 'Thanks obama' memes while the National Defense Authorization Act was being ratified in 2012.

Everyone is full of shit.

But right now in the context of jus soli that's a whataboutism.

Even if I hate the DNC.

just look at the economy in 05 when unemployment was low and stock market was high gop would praise the economy and dems would be what about wage stagnation and then when in 2015 the stock market was high and unemployment low people would just switch arguements and now that trump is president people on both sides flipped their arguement a 2nd time

Yup, very true.

The DNC ignored the debt and unfunded liabilities issues from 2008 - 2016.

Now Republicans are ignoring it and the DNC posits itself as the party of financial responsibility.

Could go on and on with examples like that, it's never ending hypocriscy.

truth is both parties are just living on debt bubbles,only question is when this one pop's

But that aside that doesn't excuse the total thumb-twiddling of the right now on executive over-reach.

And I say this as someone who is 'of the right'.

trump has taken full ownership of the economy and will go down badly as bush in 92 if their is a recession in the next 2 years

I mean we're overdue for a recession.

This is the longest we've gone with a business cycle correction since before the Great Depression.

We're in entirly uncharted economic waters.

Obama's admin and Ben Bernake / Janet Yellen will have a lot to do with the next business cycle but you won't hear analysis like this on partisan news.

Especially with this guy as you said taking full ownership of the economy.

longest we've gone without a business cycle correction*.

Schiff is still waiting

Ahahaha.

Poor Schiff.

He's not wrong in theory, but timing these events is nigh on impossible.

Well he's been wrong about the adjustments of gold prices compared to USD.

Oh absolutely, I think the collapse is inevitable

For the moment, anyway.

Doubly so wrt the collapse of my own country, Canada

I mean, that's complicated.

We're turbofucked

We could still correct course.

But uh.

Unlikely that we will.

Unlikely

Yeah

I've got to get me a coffee and some breakfast.

I'll be back, fellows.

https://news.sky.com/story/china-bans-new-winnie-the-pooh-film-amid-president-xi-comparisons-11463153

https://twitter.com/SteveScalise/status/1057280899258163200

I knew about this for months

And @Atkins because Republicans know how to aim. (Bad joke I know don't @ me)

Hey, Whitey Bulger died while serving life in prison... Justice Served. https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/nationworld/hc-br-white-bulger-dead-in-federal-prison-in-west-viriginia-20181030-story.html

Who is this?

Boston Crime Boss

Nevermind

Thank god for informative headlines

Also whitey? Pretty interesting nickname

Mob boss. Spent 16 years running from the law. Real bad hombre.

Fair enough, but what about that nickname?

He had white hair?

Damn, I was hoping for something more exciting

Whitey's dead and not a tear was shed...

https://www.thelocal.dk/20181030/iran-attempted-assassination-in-denmark-pet

https://mashable.com/article/new-ipad-pro-analysis/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mashable+%28Mashable%29#ld_vX7GZXiqu

best headline ever.

Jesus christ thats like four month wages gone

down payment on a new car right there

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hillary-clinton-jokes-they-all-look-alike-after-interviewer-mixes-up-cory-booker-and-eric-holder?fbclid=IwAR2H7AIxUiKrmF2fpPt7jKDkijonhdNUM7l-3mc00okDZfjvdLX46nFJcaM

I paid less than that for my car.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/10/breaking-report-exclusive-documents-special-counsel-and-former-fbi-director-robert-mueller-accused-of-rape-by-very-credible-witness/

#karma ?

Or #fakemetoo ?

They have to discredit him before he releases the probe results that say orange man is not bad.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/37773/bloody-halloween-24-people-shot-chicago-over-emily-zanotti

Surprisingly low for Chicago standards.

Usually it's closer to 60 per weekend

@Timcast Someone claiming to be Avi Agarwal is saying that the memo was posted by someone who is trying to get him fired: https://twitter.com/AviAgarwal10/status/1057007571834269696
https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/9skf0l/apple_intern_posted_a_open_letter_about_diversity/e8qa9aa/

I guess this is for @JDM_WAAAT also

?

This is "James Damore 2.0" guy from apple

well, supposedly. I doubt everything about a twitter account with 4 posts and a reddit acount with 3

Proof will be needed

Proof of identity

I have just updated to MacOS Mojave, which added a news app.

When adding new topics, these are the top sources that come up.


Is Apple joining the freight of big tech companies trying to steer public opinion and advocate specific news outlets?

I see Fox News in there, but if those were the only news outlets one would consume, it would be a very skewed view of current events.

When I search for "Breitbart" in the new app, I get Breitbart as a news source, but all the stories suggested to me appear to be slamming "right wing news outlets".

Apple hasn't really been in the news about trying to filter news and opinions as much as other tech giants. I wonder if they will add their weight to the other big companies that seem to be abusing their influence to steer political opinion.

Also, when searching for alternative news outlets, I get stories on feminism and breastfeeding instead.

Conservative Lifesite is facing attempts to take them out:
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/urgent-lifesite-is-under-attack

Not to point out the obvious, but that really isn't trying to steer public opinion so much as it is trying to get rid of outlets that blatently print out false pieces of information

any news aggregate that lists Breitbart would be making itself look silly

War is brewing.
https://www.thelocal.dk/20181030/denmark-recalls-ambassador-to-iran-over-foiled-attack

Oh, please, let the next generation read about the Danish-Iranian War.

Not a popular narrative as it could been seen as support for Trump lead sanctions on Iran

Isn't Canada currently in poor relations with some middle eastern country over something trudeau did?

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/trudeau-doubles-down-canadian-criticism-saudi-arabia-1897954789

I think this is what your referring to.

I think it's pretty obvious with the murder at the consulate in Istanbul that it wasn't something Trudeau did. Trudeau was responding to the situation in Yemen. Now the assassination.

And I found this a very clear rebuke of the idea of an executive order rescinding right of soil citizenship
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2018/10/30/no-the-president-cannot-end-birthright-citizenship/?utm_term=.66203b8785a5

Note the writer is their most conservative editorialist, Marc Thiessen

What were the previous rulings on situations like this?

When American Indians gave birth on claimed American lands, did they get American citizenship?

After the 14th, yes

Native Americans are Americans by right of soil

And even Chinese laborers were determined to fit within the 14th in 1898.

And they were given this right by the 14th amendment?

The 14th Amendment put an end to the games that were played saying slaves could never be citizens or Indians could never be citizens.

As intended at the time it was intended to say that if you were born here, you're a citizen

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2018/10/29/craziness-bomb-suspect-cesar-sayoc-and-stormy-daniels-worked-at-the-same-strip-c-n2533093

thats interesting, but how trustworthy is this source

I have no idea

I was just laughing at it.

and thought I would share.

https://www.10news.com/news/national/cesar-sayoc-alleged-pipe-bomb-mailer-worked-as-dj-at-west-palm-strip-club-ultra-thursday

https://guce.oath.com/collectConsent?brandType=nonEu&.done=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2Fentry%2Fhillary-clinton-syria-no-fly-zone-third-debate_us_58084280e4b0180a36e91a53%3Fguccounter%3D1&sessionId=3_cc-session_b458d66e-47e4-4297-81ac-9f6b60e7a7c4&lang=en-US&inline=false

this is hillary a while ago supporting a no fly zoen above syria aka fighting with russia

proxy war proxy war!

https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/30/facebook-proud-boys-mcinnes-kicked-off/

we are hella openminded just look at our support of free speech<:NPC:500042527231967262>

gavin mcinnes is in an interracial marriage. is facebook against race mixing? <:TimThink:482277772497125378>

a far-right men’s organization with ties to white supremacist groups.

They lie as they breathe.

Yep. Proud Boys are more diverse than Antifa but they're apparently racist.

Wonder if Antifa still has facebook pages.

Facebook where being all white is all right with us

"James Damore 2.0" was apparently real: https://github.com/AviAgarwal/AccountHacked

No

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/facebook-dilemma/

Thought this would interest people

https://nypost.com/2018/10/30/woman-who-had-sex-with-20-ghosts-is-now-engaged-to-a-spirit/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter

and men are better off

If only there was some kind of test for crazy.

It would likely trigger for all of us

"We're all mad here...I'm mad...you're mad..." ~The Cheshire Cat 🐱

I think Creepy Porn Lawyer built the bombs.

He is as good at building bombs as he is at law.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6330119/Ex-football-players-sue-woman-college-fake-rape-claim.html

"If we weren't all crazy, we would go insane." ~ Jimmy Buffett 🍹

word

Hah, dumb bitch

Hopefully they get her...

but there is nothing that can be done to make it right at this point.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/us/politics/beto-orourke-el-paso-texas-senate.html

```gavin mcinnes is in an interracial marriage. is facebook against race mixing? :TimThink:```
Isn't Gavin's Wife Asian? And some asians (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans) are rahter light skinned

Angela Merkel seems to be stepping down, so thats a thing

wrong post

the CDU head is irrelevant

in with the new king same as the old king

but a start

damn can#t find a pic of people felling a tree

gavins wife is american indian

Well, genetically I wasn't too far off 😉

lol yeah

https://www.resetera.com/threads/rpg-net-bans-support-of-trump-on-their-forums.77805/

"Trump supporters offer nothing in terms of discussion because they're too chicken shit to admit they hate minorities. I honestly have nothing to gain from someone who supports white supremacy and wants to pretend they don't."

"Being a white supremacist has always been bannable on ERA.

They do tend to give people a little too much plausible deniability though."

"For the most part its kinda hard to be a Trump supporter and defend it without catching a ban. For example if you were a Trump supporter and made supportive posts about him in a thread about the economy that's whatever because its the economy, not relevant to TOS. However if you were a Trump supporter and tried to defend his transgender military ban then you would almost certainly catch a ban as your defense of that policy would almost certainly be against TOS and by extension the moral values of most of the userbase. So you can get away with it but its pretty damn telling when they avoid certain threads like the plague."

"Well support of Trump is by its nature a support of fascism, bigotry, and abject cruelty towards subjugated classes, so I see no issue with this."

"Dope policy.

Not saying it doesn't need to be applied here but most Trump supporters here usually get banned or can't even have a logical argument without being wilfully ignorant/disingenuous so they either lurk or go somewhere else. The few big ones from the old site that actually have accounts here don't even bother."

How are we supposed to have a discussion if we are banned everywhere and people are constantly trying to shut us down, even when we go to other sites, like Gab?

How can you even debate someone who thinks you are a Nazi simply for voting for Trump?

"Banned support of Trump?

Nothing of value lost."

"I mean at this point, what does supporting Trump make you? A racist, sexist, short-sighted, egoistic, likely less-than-average intelligent "human" being.

I'm okay with banning support of Trump."

First President to win while supporting gay marriage

anti-LGBT

ulu

"So by analogy we shouldn't ban child pornography, because it's a slippery slope and someone else might ban pictures of cute kittens?"

Proisrael, antisemite/nazi

"When have you EVER seen a Trump supporter here?

The admins do a great job of shutting
down dog whistle talking points. It just so happens that all of Trump’s talking points are dog whistles."

"It's an admirable move. Ultimately lines have to be drawn, or evil people will continue to poison communities."

So if a dogwhistle is something only a dog can hear

and they hear racism any time someone talks, but conservatives don't

doesn't that mean they're the racists

"Ever tried speaking with them about social issues? They're as honest and interested in the conversation as the man himself.

There is no debating with these people. And your last line? When it comes down to it, that is what they're doing.by default."


So there is no debating us - and that is why you ban us all?

We can't fucking debate you if you BAN US!

How fucking retarded are those people?

Well, they want safe spaces.

Honestly, all these movements help Trump anyway

"f you voted for a man who admitted to sexual assault on tape, you’re kind of a piece of garbage to be honest and probably don’t deserve a whole lot benefit of the doubt. You could have still voted for your local or state Republicans like a lot of people in Utah appeared to do, you just didn’t have to vote for Trump."


Trump talked about women throwing themselves at rich people. Hillary was the one who actually defended a rapist, and the part "if they let you" was edited out by the MSM.

Honestly why you doing this anyway?

Doing what?

Nothing you say here will change anybody's minds since most here already agreew ith you

And the people there are already entrenched in their mindset in an environment that makes it impossible for anybody to retort

This is the news channel. This appears to qualify as news, very relevant news, because the mass banning has reached fever pitch.

I am not writing this to change anyone's mind. I am writing this to give people a picture what is going on.

Yeah fair enough.. I just feel the second hand facepalming

Honestly, I wouldnt be negatvie about a blanket no politics rule

I also want to illustrate how these people think.

But banning one side is very disengenuos

"If you still support Trump, nobody owes you a platform. Everyone “understands” them perfectly so why allow them to continue spamming their rhetoric on any site? They’re not interested in debate as much as they’re interested in owning the libs with well rehearsed talking points from their Trump subreddit"

They are saying the same things about us as we do about them.

Hmm thats a good point

Honestly I cant take it seriously when someone supports fascist policies but calls other people fascist.

Well, maybe not fascist but authoritharian

cognitive

dissonance

it's like believing black people can't help but commit crimes and the cops are racists for enforcing the law on them

I am actually a minority that they would bestow protected status on.

And my life was destroyed by SJWs.