Undead Mockingbird

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2018-09-29 19:47:38 UTC [Subverse #bot-commands]  


2018-09-29 19:47:41 UTC [Subverse #bot-commands]  


2018-09-29 19:47:55 UTC [Subverse #bot-commands]  

Just wanted to thank Tim Pool for his work.

2018-10-02 19:04:00 UTC [Subverse #general]  


2018-10-02 19:06:11 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Today, right and left are relative of an ever shifting center.

2018-10-02 19:06:19 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

A center that moves further and further left.

2018-10-02 19:07:19 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

The shift he presented was for Democrats and Republicans.

2018-10-02 19:08:25 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

According to politics not too long ago, both parties would be left.

2018-10-02 19:09:16 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Yes. That is why I referred to a shifting center.

2018-10-02 19:09:39 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Left and right only makes sense in relation to the current center, not as absolute terms, in that context.

2018-10-02 19:10:40 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Otherwise, they would still refer to the original meaning of pro monarchy and pro democracy affiliations, as the term was first used during the French Revolution.

2018-10-02 19:10:55 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Now, it's kind of murky what "left" and "right" means.

2018-10-02 19:11:26 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

If Hitler is extreme right and Stalin extreme left, what am I? Halfway between Stalin and Hitler? That makes no sense.

2018-10-02 19:31:20 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Well, pick whoever you like.

2018-10-02 19:31:34 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

You will probably find that it makes just as little sense to present it as a continuous spectrum.

2018-10-02 19:32:29 UTC [Subverse #debate]  


2018-10-02 19:32:38 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Except people who put toilet paper upset down.

2018-10-02 19:33:45 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

There is ONE proper way to put the toilet paper on the holder. All humans should have rights - except the ones that put the toilet paper coming from UNDER onto the holder.

2018-10-02 19:34:08 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

If we could eliminate all such people, utopia would be achieved.

2018-10-02 19:34:18 UTC [Subverse #debate]  


2018-10-02 19:37:50 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Don't be disappointed. I'm sure I'll be elected.

2018-10-02 19:38:07 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

With a platform like that, there is no way I can lose.

2018-10-02 19:38:18 UTC [Subverse #debate]  


2018-10-02 19:49:54 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I identify as a common mountain snail.

2018-10-02 19:50:05 UTC [Subverse #general]  

My pronouns are your social security and credit card number.

2018-10-02 19:50:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Thank you, but please address me with my proper pronouns.

2018-10-02 19:50:56 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@tmg copper Thank you.

2018-10-02 19:51:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Is that Visa or Master Card?

2018-10-02 19:51:17 UTC [Subverse #general]  


2018-10-02 19:51:21 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Finally someone showing respect.

2018-10-02 19:52:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I am a victim with a funny hat.

2018-10-02 19:52:17 UTC [Subverse #general]  

So, I have more victim points.

2018-10-02 19:52:38 UTC [Subverse #general]  

And I had a cold last weekend ...

2018-10-02 19:53:00 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Do you know how many people Hitler killed who had a cold?

2018-10-02 19:53:17 UTC [Subverse #general]  

People with colds are the most victimized in the history of humanity.

2018-10-02 19:53:55 UTC [Subverse #general]  


2018-10-02 19:54:09 UTC [Subverse #general]  


2018-10-02 19:57:10 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Deleted User Wow, nice find.

2018-10-02 19:57:24 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I would totally post this on Facebook, but it would probably get me suspended again.

2018-10-02 19:58:00 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I could do that. I already have a Minds account, check

2018-10-02 19:58:45 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I also have a Gab account, but some of my normie friends are still on FB, queen to e4

2018-10-02 20:05:30 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Actually, you make a good point.

2018-10-02 20:05:49 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Also, I keep telling people that they shouldn't stop using Google, etc. if they really want to boycott them.

2018-10-02 20:06:06 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Keep using the free portion and never hand them a dime, i.e. block all ads, do not track.

2018-10-02 20:06:50 UTC [Subverse #general]  

But DO use their free services, code, libraries, apps, and so forth. It's like the difference between boycotting a restaurant by no longer eating there and to keep going there for the free bread sticks - but then just leaving.

2018-10-02 20:07:49 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Right. That's why I said you should have adblockers and tracking disablers.

2018-10-02 20:08:02 UTC [Subverse #general]  

But, you should probably have those anyway.

2018-10-02 20:08:48 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Right, but you don't necessarily have to give them your data. You make a good point, because they now require phone numbers for sign up, but you can use burner numbers.

2018-10-02 20:09:19 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Some extensions even go further and mass click every add that your browser encounters, without displaying them, to mess up their analytics.

2018-10-02 20:09:55 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@>Cytos, de lieve goede synth Right. You can't associate anything useful to your account then.

2018-10-02 20:10:18 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@โ™“โ™โ™‹ Whitelist sites you want to support.

2018-10-02 20:11:14 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Yes, there are limitations to that.

2018-10-02 20:11:56 UTC [Subverse #general]  

But, I have throwaway Google accounts just for the storage space from Google Drive, for example, or I use YouTube for streaming. I do not see what data they get from me, while I am using their bandwidth.

2018-10-02 20:12:38 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Right. There have been cases in which such similar correlations have been used.

2018-10-02 20:13:23 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Anyway: What I meant is that there might be ways to still use what these companies provide for free, while avoiding to give them anything of value. That's all I'm saying.

2018-10-02 20:13:53 UTC [Subverse #general]  

And, of course they are trying to minimize that as far as possible.

2018-10-02 20:16:20 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I am not talking about getting some movement off the grounds. It's something anyone can do for themselves.

2018-10-02 20:16:44 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I still use some Google services, and I am relatively certain that I am not giving them anything of value through my particular use.

2018-10-02 20:17:33 UTC [Subverse #general]  

For example, I haven't stopped using YouTube through MPV-YT, which is my current music player.

2018-10-02 20:18:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

All I am doing is grabbing the stream, but I do not believe that Google gains anything from that. Some people, not saying you, seem convinced that the best way to boycott a company is to completely avoid using any of their products or services.

2018-10-02 20:18:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I am saying that this might not necessarily be the case, as there are steps you can take through which you prevent them from getting to what they want out of you.

2018-10-02 20:20:10 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Yes, you can create such a vieo.

2018-10-02 20:20:25 UTC [Subverse #general]  

It sounds like a wacky example, but I like those kind of thought experiments. Let's go there.

2018-10-02 20:21:09 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I think this is very close to watermarking and data stenciling, I believe it's called, which is basically hiding data in files.

2018-10-02 20:21:48 UTC [Subverse #general]  

It's pretty easy to do. For example, a GIF has headers that let the image library know where the picture ends, so additional data at the end of the file will not bother standard compliant libraries.

2018-10-02 20:22:07 UTC [Subverse #general]  

So, you can append as much data to the end of the GIF as you like, upload it, nobody knows, and your data is at the end of the file.

2018-10-02 20:22:44 UTC [Subverse #general]  

For example, I tried this on Minds and other social media services. I made a zip file in which I put some random cat memes, uploaded it to Minds, and my friend downloaded it, unzipped the file and got the cat memes out.

2018-10-02 20:22:52 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The GIF was only 1 pixel in size.

2018-10-02 20:23:25 UTC [Subverse #general]  

So, it is not too hard to hide data in a video stream, by watermarking. You can create any kind of pattern in your video, but it might make it harder, because many services will transcode your data first.

2018-10-02 20:23:53 UTC [Subverse #general]  

YouTube, for example, will transcode your video to MP4 and AAC codec, so your data will likely get lost, as the transcoder only grabs the data it knows about.

2018-10-02 20:24:26 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Other sites use a library called PNGCRUSH, which performs a similar function, and reduces extraneous data before storing and serving the image.

2018-10-02 20:24:41 UTC [Subverse #general]  

No, that's not new. I am not saying it is. I am just answering the quesiton.

2018-10-02 20:25:02 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Right. That's not too hard to program.

2018-10-02 20:25:41 UTC [Subverse #general]  

For example, QR codes just encode images. You could write a plugin that transforms each image on the fly and renders the "hidden" video.

2018-10-02 20:25:59 UTC [Subverse #general]  

In computer security this is very similar to what is known as a "side channel".

2018-10-02 20:26:45 UTC [Subverse #general]  

@Deleted User Yes, I know. But, it could be in the video frame itself. For example, QR codes encode URLs. You can create an arbitrary encoding for data that you then display in each frame.

2018-10-02 20:27:02 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Even just morse code. They then represent bits.

2018-10-02 20:27:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

It might not be very compact, but creating such a "coded" video is doable.

2018-10-02 20:27:29 UTC [Subverse #general]  

You could even go so far that it only makes sense if the watchers have a particular private key.

2018-10-02 20:27:55 UTC [Subverse #general]  

It would look like static, unless you have the decryption key. It's not so different from the encoding that TV channels used.

2018-10-02 20:28:46 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Anyway. It's pretty wacky, but I am just going along with the thought experiment.

2018-10-02 20:29:47 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Yes. Somebody brought up uploading an encoded video to YouTube that can be played, but is not viewable in its original form until decoded.

2018-10-02 20:30:01 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I was just walking through how one could create such an encoded video.

2018-10-02 20:30:37 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I was mentioning side channels, because in computer security, there have been amazing bugs that kind of inferred data through very unlikely means, such as the pattern of memory access by another process.

2018-10-02 20:31:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Huh? No, I just explained what a side channel attack is in the context of computer security.

2018-10-02 20:31:42 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I do not know what term you are talking about, but if you are correct, there might be different uses of the term in different contexts.

2018-10-02 20:32:16 UTC [Subverse #general]  

This is what I am talking about: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Side-channel_attack

2018-10-02 20:33:26 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Just like binary is just an arbitrary encoding, you can also encode arbitrary data in movies.

2018-10-02 20:34:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Just like any of the letters of this sentence can be represented in numbers, such as their unicode encoding.

2018-10-02 20:34:31 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I don't know if that was the intention.

2018-10-02 20:34:59 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I was using the example of the side channel attacks as an example of how regular communication and processes can be piggy backed on to communicate other information.

2018-10-02 20:35:52 UTC [Subverse #general]  

"In computer security, a side-channel attack is any attack based on information gained from the implementation of a computer system, rather than weaknesses in the implemented algorithm itself (e.g. cryptanalysis and software bugs). Timing information, power consumption, electromagnetic leaks or even sound can provide an extra source of information, which can be exploited."

2018-10-02 20:36:35 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I don't want to get off topic.

2018-10-02 20:37:33 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I was responding to a hypothetical question.

2018-10-02 20:38:02 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The question, as I understood it, was whether one can "hide" data in an otherwise valid video.

2018-10-02 20:38:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  


2018-10-02 20:40:04 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Yes, but you can still encode whatever you please in the data you upload.

2018-10-02 20:40:39 UTC [Subverse #general]  

But, that's really, REALLY hypothetical.

2018-10-02 20:40:52 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I was just playing along, because I liked the thought experiment.

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