I agree that it's uh, a total violation of the American ideal of e pluribus unum.

didn't Trump put some Judges in the 9th Circuit? not enough?

Which is what people are banking on I suspect

Not only this but even if you want some form of restricted jus soli.

Which is fine.

I disagree but that's an argument that can be had I think, sure.

Even then the idea of forcing constitutional changes through the executive branch.

It isn't the executive branch's perogative to legislate.

jus soli is dumb, no one has it now except US and Canada, you're just begging people to take advantage of this arrangement

I love the 'conservatives' who rightfully critiqued Obama's expansion of executive power now seemingly have no criticism here.

Hey go figure.

Who'd want to be fucking consistent.

Thank God im not a Conservative :D

'No one has it besides the US and Canada'.

Whelp, that's not true.

i can see your point tho

who else got it

Dominantly south and central american countries. No European countries come to mind.

Tbh I see some value in people abusing precedent

Though several European countries have restricted jus soli.

Most of them only see a problem that they are getting a solution to.

Without noticing the mount of power this gives the govt

But, Mexico, Jamacia, Dominican Republic, Brazil, Bolivia, Belize, Argentina etc.

macho the hypocrisy on both sides is at least consistent who can forget many liberals calling dick cheney darth cheney for expanding the suvielance state then not giving a shit when obama did it

Lot more.

I agree, Roman.

Entirely.

people will contort their views on many issues depending on which party is in power

Honestly, I agree as well, I think its gonna just waste time, but well, trump has proved me wrong alot of times so....

lol at a whole generation of leftists twiddling their thumbs and reposting 'Thanks obama' memes while the National Defense Authorization Act was being ratified in 2012.

Everyone is full of shit.

But right now in the context of jus soli that's a whataboutism.

Even if I hate the DNC.

just look at the economy in 05 when unemployment was low and stock market was high gop would praise the economy and dems would be what about wage stagnation and then when in 2015 the stock market was high and unemployment low people would just switch arguements and now that trump is president people on both sides flipped their arguement a 2nd time

Yup, very true.

The DNC ignored the debt and unfunded liabilities issues from 2008 - 2016.

Now Republicans are ignoring it and the DNC posits itself as the party of financial responsibility.

Could go on and on with examples like that, it's never ending hypocriscy.

truth is both parties are just living on debt bubbles,only question is when this one pop's

But that aside that doesn't excuse the total thumb-twiddling of the right now on executive over-reach.

And I say this as someone who is 'of the right'.