Message from @AdorableStormtrooper

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2018-10-30 17:13:54 UTC  

As if the Constitution still applies, there's literal Racial Discrimination and a Surveillance State built into American Law now

2018-10-30 17:14:02 UTC  

^^

2018-10-30 17:14:21 UTC  

The govt doesn't need to take permission of the Congress to launch Wars

2018-10-30 17:14:22 UTC  

2nd Amendment has been fucked for decades too

2018-10-30 17:14:34 UTC  

1st got temp fucked in WW1

2018-10-30 17:14:44 UTC  

Fixed 40ish years ago

2018-10-30 17:14:44 UTC  

@AdorableStormtrooper not sure state surveillance goes against the constitution? explain

2018-10-30 17:14:52 UTC  

4th amendment

2018-10-30 17:15:20 UTC  

"unreasonable searches and seizures"? I spose that makes sense yeah

2018-10-30 17:15:26 UTC  

yup, right against unreasonable search and seizures

2018-10-30 17:15:27 UTC  

the 9th circuit court will chew up any attempt to revoke the 14th.

2018-10-30 17:15:49 UTC  

SCotUS can counterfuck the 9th

2018-10-30 17:15:58 UTC  

I agree that it's uh, a total violation of the American ideal of e pluribus unum.

2018-10-30 17:16:02 UTC  

didn't Trump put some Judges in the 9th Circuit? not enough?

2018-10-30 17:16:03 UTC  

Which is what people are banking on I suspect

2018-10-30 17:16:26 UTC  

Not only this but even if you want some form of restricted jus soli.

2018-10-30 17:16:28 UTC  

Which is fine.

2018-10-30 17:16:40 UTC  

I disagree but that's an argument that can be had I think, sure.

2018-10-30 17:16:50 UTC  

Even then the idea of forcing constitutional changes through the executive branch.

2018-10-30 17:16:57 UTC  

It isn't the executive branch's perogative to legislate.

2018-10-30 17:17:10 UTC  

jus soli is dumb, no one has it now except US and Canada, you're just begging people to take advantage of this arrangement

2018-10-30 17:17:28 UTC  

I love the 'conservatives' who rightfully critiqued Obama's expansion of executive power now seemingly have no criticism here.

2018-10-30 17:17:36 UTC  

Hey go figure.

2018-10-30 17:17:43 UTC  

Who'd want to be fucking consistent.

2018-10-30 17:18:04 UTC  

Thank God im not a Conservative :D

2018-10-30 17:18:23 UTC  

'No one has it besides the US and Canada'.

2018-10-30 17:18:27 UTC  

Whelp, that's not true.

2018-10-30 17:18:31 UTC  

i can see your point tho

2018-10-30 17:18:36 UTC  

who else got it

2018-10-30 17:19:10 UTC  

Dominantly south and central american countries. No European countries come to mind.

2018-10-30 17:19:12 UTC  

Tbh I see some value in people abusing precedent

2018-10-30 17:19:21 UTC  

Though several European countries have restricted jus soli.

2018-10-30 17:19:35 UTC  

Most of them only see a problem that they are getting a solution to.

2018-10-30 17:19:45 UTC  

Without noticing the mount of power this gives the govt

2018-10-30 17:19:47 UTC  

But, Mexico, Jamacia, Dominican Republic, Brazil, Bolivia, Belize, Argentina etc.

2018-10-30 17:19:49 UTC  

macho the hypocrisy on both sides is at least consistent who can forget many liberals calling dick cheney darth cheney for expanding the suvielance state then not giving a shit when obama did it

2018-10-30 17:19:51 UTC  

Lot more.

2018-10-30 17:19:59 UTC  

I agree, Roman.

2018-10-30 17:20:01 UTC  

Entirely.

2018-10-30 17:20:22 UTC  

people will contort their views on many issues depending on which party is in power

2018-10-30 17:20:30 UTC  

Honestly, I agree as well, I think its gonna just waste time, but well, trump has proved me wrong alot of times so....