(I apologize; English is not my first language.)

recreational gun ownership is the same as "hunter" for me... basically the same regulations for both

You're moving goal posts...

not really

And @Miss Direction IIRC it's an EU human right to have access to the internet

Why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6Ntk8peiIE

I just think it's more complicated than that, especially in the United States. There are plenty of areas in the US where it is not uncommon to be miles away from the nearest telephone pole, much less being within a reasonable response time to a police station or sheriff's office.

Because most north/west EU countries have basically fully digitized their government communication

hunter/sportsschiessen: heavily regulated where you are allowed to use your guns, what guns you can use and even how you can use your guns.

And in a lot of the major cities, there *is* very strict gun control, if not outright bans.

I depart. Good luck, all.

Yes, but you at first just said hunter. When I pointed out that isn't true, you suddenly changed that to hunter 'also means recreational shooting'

to me hunting is recreational shooting

but you are right that there IS a destinction in the law

Here is a problem, in the us, with at least some instances. There are several laws already in place that are not enforced as well as the should be. Yet the solution proposed is to add more to it? In Florida, it seems literally everyone knew this was a very real possibility with this kid
The FBI even knew but couldn't get him on anything. Banning assault weapons doesn't really fix it. Or more accurately is like having a hammer and treating everything like a nail. Why ban all cars, for example, when you knew a person was very likely going to use a car to commit a terror act. Why not find where they should have been able get them, and add a small piece of legislation there, rather than punish all the law abiding companies and citizens for the action of a minority.

why should anyone give a sliver of their rights up to stopgap something that may or may not do anything long term?

In the grand scheme of things, you cannot reasonably stop people who lose their shit from doing anything.

You ban guns and they run around with cars or swords or make explosives

we cannot un-learn these things

NICS should have a bit more of a handle on things

but in this shooter's case; really I'm not sure that the feds should have been able to do anything

maybe the teachers could have actually been armed?

As much as I might dislike that kids were shot and killed; it's honestly probably not possible to actually predict and 100% stop nutjobs like this

Arming teachers and having armed security is a very logical thing to do.

short of infringing rights significantly

Well, I'm not suggesting arming them per-se, but allowing them to do so would be nice

Giving them the ability to be armed yes.

Don’t have to force them.

In that case, you're removing at least one penal code from the state

so I has no issue

It sounds fucked up to say, but I am more OK with random spurious lunatics losing it than I am with giving up the rights enumerated in the constitution of the US

I'd of course, rather they be stopped

but I don't want to go down the thoughtcrime path

Where I live we have security guards at all schools, some teachers have personal weapons, and in general lots of people walk around with military grade weapons (which are allowed in schools). Can’t recall ever having a school shooting so guns aren’t the problem.

Yeah, there are like a handful of states/municipalities that allow it afaik

Here in the social justice capital of the united states however, that's a big nono

Frisco?

The problem with armed security is the cost

And that in public schools it would be taxpayers money

Better to spend it on security than stupid social programs.

Bray areayylmao only

not SF

(Thankfully)

Just cut wasteful expenses and start funding security (also creates new jobs).

actually most campuses already have security

But really, I think one gaurd and only the main entrance unlocked to the outside might have helped. If there was a button that trigger an internal lockdown and the procedure of "if you see a person with a fucking long gun, press button first ask questions later", it might have helped some

they just aren't armed at all

Security might as well not be security if they aren’t armed.

red alert button might be good but

I dunno how effective it'll be

Everyone armed to the teeth

students, teachers

janitors

Well, it's better than letting a dude pull a fire alarm and wait for his victims to come running

the principal with a deagle brand deagle

A nun that happened to be there

I still question how a dude with a long gun gets into a school unnoticed

Can take it apart and put it into a bag.

Then assemble in the bathroom or something.

https://youtu.be/TOKYD7ua0sY?t=157

Did he actually have a standard non-sbr upper?

I have not seen dick pix

Because he could have just bought a 11.4 or 10" upper and illegally slapped it on his rifle lower

it's not like those components are restricted

"Save the Dutch referendum!"
https://www.democracy-international.org/meer-democratie-netherlands-sue-minister-over-abolition-dutch-referendum

"Dutch Intelligence and Security Services Act referendum 2018"
(Tapping Law to give General Intelligence and Security Service sweeping surveillance powers)
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Dutch_Intelligence_and_Security_Services_Act_referendum,_2018
"Although a referendum will be held, the government has indicated it plans for the law to nevertheless to go into effect on 1 May 2018."

Yeah, they basically openly stated that the result of the referendum doesn't matter, they'll ignore any 'no' result.

Yeah, they already know the majority of people are against this. They know the people will vote "incorrectly".

This law will allow people's devices to be hacked, but also those of friends, relatives, family etc.

They will also be allowed to tap ALL internet traffic, request information from any company or governmental databases and exchange this info with other secret services.

Basically, it's about mass surveillance.

https://youtu.be/Zpb-NtV5LGU

Ooof

Poll: 63% of UK business leaders support Brexit

https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/02/poll-63-of-uk-business-leaders-support-brexitpoll-63-uk-business-leaders-support-brexit/

The real Women’s March: Protests against migrant violence and Islamisation in Berlin

https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/02/the-real-womens-march-is-now-protests-against-migrant-violence-and-islamisation-in-berlin/

Dutch parliament recognises Armenian genocide, minister to attend commemoration

https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/02/dutch-parliament-recognises-armenian-genocide-minister-attend-commemoration/

EU: Hungarian town can’t be European Capital of Culture because there are “too many happy white people”

https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/02/eu-hungarian-town-cant-be-european-capital-of-culture-because-there-are-too-many-happy-white-people/

am I going crazy or was there a new Tim Pool video on youtube that is now not available anymore?

He probably accidentally uploaded to public

oh lol

It’s the video from yesterday I think.

It's 10 minutes short of his regular release time

i thought i did see something with 4chan

didnt watch it immediately tho and now its gone

https://www.bitchute.com/Timcast/

YouTube removed it and gave him a strike for "harassment."

wow srsly?

thx for the alternative upload link

if things get crazy at the Damore event Tim will not be able to do a spontaneous live stream on his main channel

Does tim ever actually use discord

I’ve been in here since day one and I’ve only seen him active once

I've seen him a few times

But barely.

You're welcome. Glad there's another way to view the video.

Hes a busy man. But he did come in here occasionally.