but you are right that there IS a destinction in the law

Here is a problem, in the us, with at least some instances. There are several laws already in place that are not enforced as well as the should be. Yet the solution proposed is to add more to it? In Florida, it seems literally everyone knew this was a very real possibility with this kid
The FBI even knew but couldn't get him on anything. Banning assault weapons doesn't really fix it. Or more accurately is like having a hammer and treating everything like a nail. Why ban all cars, for example, when you knew a person was very likely going to use a car to commit a terror act. Why not find where they should have been able get them, and add a small piece of legislation there, rather than punish all the law abiding companies and citizens for the action of a minority.

why should anyone give a sliver of their rights up to stopgap something that may or may not do anything long term?

In the grand scheme of things, you cannot reasonably stop people who lose their shit from doing anything.

You ban guns and they run around with cars or swords or make explosives

we cannot un-learn these things

NICS should have a bit more of a handle on things

but in this shooter's case; really I'm not sure that the feds should have been able to do anything

maybe the teachers could have actually been armed?

As much as I might dislike that kids were shot and killed; it's honestly probably not possible to actually predict and 100% stop nutjobs like this

Arming teachers and having armed security is a very logical thing to do.

short of infringing rights significantly

Well, I'm not suggesting arming them per-se, but allowing them to do so would be nice

Giving them the ability to be armed yes.

Don’t have to force them.

In that case, you're removing at least one penal code from the state

so I has no issue

It sounds fucked up to say, but I am more OK with random spurious lunatics losing it than I am with giving up the rights enumerated in the constitution of the US

I'd of course, rather they be stopped

but I don't want to go down the thoughtcrime path

Where I live we have security guards at all schools, some teachers have personal weapons, and in general lots of people walk around with military grade weapons (which are allowed in schools). Can’t recall ever having a school shooting so guns aren’t the problem.

Yeah, there are like a handful of states/municipalities that allow it afaik

Here in the social justice capital of the united states however, that's a big nono

Frisco?

The problem with armed security is the cost

And that in public schools it would be taxpayers money

Better to spend it on security than stupid social programs.

Bray areayylmao only

not SF

(Thankfully)

Just cut wasteful expenses and start funding security (also creates new jobs).

actually most campuses already have security

But really, I think one gaurd and only the main entrance unlocked to the outside might have helped. If there was a button that trigger an internal lockdown and the procedure of "if you see a person with a fucking long gun, press button first ask questions later", it might have helped some

they just aren't armed at all

Security might as well not be security if they aren’t armed.

red alert button might be good but

I dunno how effective it'll be

Everyone armed to the teeth

students, teachers

janitors

Well, it's better than letting a dude pull a fire alarm and wait for his victims to come running