Oh you'll make that decision for em, huh

"Banning religious practice" wouldn't even happen, though. Religious practice doesn't adversely affect others unless you're a bigot or an idiot

Look at that baby's eyes. You KNOW he's not a responsible dick cleaner.

Ugh. What a slob.

Get me a knife.

FGM gets tons of attention but circumcision is *male* genital mutilation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx_ov2NiNo4

Who the fuck uploaded this

What is with the low volume.

Good morning cunts. Heres some light reading to start the day off right.
https://bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/all-media/uk-mass-surveillance-ruled-unlawful-in-landmark-judgment/

that sounds too good to be true, must be fake news

Interesting that this is the first case to be taken to court and they choose to go to the ECHR. We need a bill of rights in this country so badly.

seems legit https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1040181761471381505?s=20

I can see why two Russian men would go on holiday together out of Russia.

All joking aside, do you think it was the Russians?

It does not make any sense

But who do fuck knows

<:TimThink:482277772497125378>

The whole story is weird from start to finish

I doubt its the Russians at this point

cuz its got about as much evidence as the Trump-russia story

It could have been anyone

For example china

That's the spy game for you. We've had a bloke found, shoot in the head and screwed up into a suit case in a suicide and a head of state, now president of Russia, fly here and poison a man with plutonium.

It could've been the brits themselves, to false flag Russia so people get scared and support the government authority

Well as i said its weird story

Why the hell would China try to kill a ex Russian spy?

to create tension, so they aren't in the spotlight

Durring world cup

China benefits from europe and russian tensions

Yeah, the Russians know how much we like our football. It's a good time to burry a story. And that goes for the UK doing it too. They knew it wouldn't get half as much air time.

The point is with no actual evidence you can make any story

for all we know, Lauren Southern poisoned that spy, thats why she not allowed back into the UK <:TimThink:482277772497125378>

Exaclty, you can't say 'we don't have any evidence, so it could be anyone' that's not how this works.

I'd be more likely to believe it was the EU than the UK.

well what they do is

"We have no evidence, but we strongly SUSPECT Russians are behind this! So we condemn Russia"

Yes, you can do that without any evidence coz they have a track record of killing people on our soil and a record of killing ex-spies. Thats enough to take a closer look. I think they do have evidence but csan

can't show it.

Eu has no foreign agents tho

Eu countries do

But not eu

Might change in the future

Its enough to take a closer look, but they're not allowed to make an accusation without evidence given to back it up

thats witch-hunt style doing it

I agree with doc here

Its like the muh russian hacked the elections

"This person committed treason"

Do you have any evidence of it?

Yes

Can we see it?

No

Thats like those Anonymous sources that CNN uses

Dont forget about the wmd in iraq

"An Anon, told us that the President wanted to watch the "Gorilla channel" and whispers to the winning gorilla close up the telivision"

😄

Gonna find them any moment now

dude the WMD in Iraq destroyed my faith in Government policing

"We suspect they have WMDs"

We didn't find any

"We suspect they have WMDs"

We checked again, didn't find any

"They have WMD's"

No

-Invade-

Yeah it was ilegal invasion

OK, yeah. Condemning them without showing evidence is going a bit far.

Its innocent until proven guilty

Not SJW/Government mentality of "Guilty until proven innocent"

Yes

thats how you get witch-hunts, and Gulags

"it was illegal invasion"

as if any invasion can be legal.

what about the Invasion of Normandy to liberate Europe from the Nazis? <:TimThink:482277772497125378>

Its an interesting legalistic problem

Both aproaches have their pros and cons

You know,

If America Nuked Germany at the end of WW2

We should have German Tentacle porn <:TimThink:482277772497125378>

It made sense when you needed un approval for any foreign intervention

lets start the day with good news

http://www.thenyherald.com/2018/09/11/pedophiles-decapitated-corpse-found-on-judges-doorstep-after-bail-hearing/

yikes

How did they identify the guy? Fingerprints and dna?

I see... so retribution then?

maybe he had his wallet on him

Eh, sure I guess.

It is the first thing you look for afterall

As much as i condemn the action of Vigilante executions in any form,

I have trouble feeling bad it happend to a pedophile

Oh in the article it said his severed head was left on the steps too

"...he found the decapitated body of the man he had allowed to walk free slumped against his front door with the severed head left on the steps."

Many they found a head and put two and two together?

the head was with the body

Just not attached anymore

I assumed the head wasnt there

yeah so did i until i read past the headline 😛

All right Smarty. don't rub it in.

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Fair enough

I avoid news enough already

Fuckin hell. These people can not be allowed near power. They must be stopped.
https://twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/status/1040184446169833472

damn

Here's a long read to put on the back burner. It's from the Tony Blair Institute regarding the global problem of violent Islam and sets out a global solution.
https://institute.global/insight/co-existence/violent-islamist-extremism-global-problem

No hate facts here pls

You know the last person who had a final solution? <:TimThink:482277772497125378>

ever think that cuz we didn't implement it, we still have problems? <:TimThink:482277772497125378>

A lot of people are asking...

This is the problem though, you have a religion that breeds hateful people who glorify death in conflict

And other people who benefit by having them all kill each other constantly, and then dragging others into it

Sounds like nihilism

what does?

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With respect to the beheaded pedo case, when the state loses the perception that they have a legitimate monopoly on force, bad shit is bound to follow. Had the FBI not arrested the people from the New Mexico compound, something similar may very well have happened there.

Beheaded wot

I blame the infestation of politics in every aspect of our lives. The person who beheaded this guy likely did not see the judge as a neutral arbiter that made an asinine mistake, but instead as a politically biased activist.

@Scribblehatch scroll up
<http://www.thenyherald.com/2018/09/11/pedophiles-decapitated-corpse-found-on-judges-doorstep-after-bail-hearing/>

lol

I don't mind this. So long as he actually molested someone, I don't mind it.

If it was just the possession of pornography, that'd be way out of line.

When people believe the state can't provide justice, they'll find someone who can

What if it was pictures of your kids?

Have they been talking about this? https://youtu.be/E5gPdrlyc84

```What if it was pictures of your kids?```
Then I'd be for the beheading the of the PEOPLE WHO MADE THAT, WOULDN'T I

The pedo himself isn't important here. It's that the system failed so utterly, and that someone took justice into their own hands *and rubbed the judge's nose in it*. We might have an emotional reaction to think "yeah fuck child molesters" but this is very clear evidence of political decay.

Have we forgotten the real real criminals? How do they always become mysterious phantoms when we've caught sight of someone who just has what they've produced?

Not the people that make it profitable endeavour?

Who says he PAID FOR IT?

That's the thing

How do you know it wasn't just fileshared shit

Guys you're getting distracted by the pedo aspect. That's not important here.

Lets just agree here people,

any form of application of sexuality to a child is BAD, and the people who do it should meet justice

So was he like tried and found guilty by a judge? Or was it a jury verdict?

Only real children.

If the child is imaginary, no harm is done, and therefore no foul.

@R9b1t he was released on bail as the judge ruled he was not being a danger to the community.

they're not a child then, they're imagination 😛

stop justifinf your drawings. We're talking about real kids here.

See, you don't get specific enough.

Nibwor#t

People have been jailed only hearing the way YOU phrase it.

Very similar to how the New Mexico compound families were released on bail.

So you are conflating real CP to loli are youj?

Me shower me mad

Poppy are you bein a butt?

***THE PEDO ASPECT IS UNIMPORTANT***

I'm trying to get you to shut up about your drawings

Atkins, the conversations has pivoted.

Stop trying to unpivot.

considering he was accused of raping a child, he's a molester, not just a pedo

The criminal could easily have been a murderer, or a rapist, or anything.

You can resume your argument when we've become disinterested in our own

He was accused of being a rapist

The important thing is that someone acted as a vigilante because the judge made a shitty decision.

Sure.

It's happened before.

And the vigilante specifically decided to rub the judge's nose in their failure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PUE8fYxjq8

Should be done a bit more imo, though not necessarily through putting a beheaded corpse at their door 😉

That's good parenting.

No it should not be done more.

This is really, really bad.

Let's say for the sake of argument that he DIDN'T ACTUALLY DO IT

I would agree with you, this is bad

But lets say the evidence that he'd DONE IT is irrefutable.

The only thing that keeps us from turning into a pack of heavily armed violent savages trapped in an ever escalating cycle of retributive violence is that the state is perceived as having a monopoly on the legitimate use of force.

It is, but i have trouble caring considering its a miscarriage of justice on both sides

Two wrongs don't make a right,
But I can't feel bad for this incident

And the judge simply decides he isn't a danger anyway.

--Well. Tough shit. Molestation is a death sentence.

With prepubescence there isn't a grey area.

If the state wants a monopoly on legitimate use of force,
The state should earn it respectfully, by actually having justice

If the people lose faith in the system, they'll find their own solution to get waht they want

Yeah, this is where the law is lacking.

This is why Antifa is so violent, they don't believe the state controls force either

Granted, the law is lacking THE OTHER WAY too

Jailing people for imaginary drawings? Fuck are we doing here?

If the state does not a) maintain a monopoly by punishing vigilantes and b) maintain legitimacy by being competent, fair, and impartial then BAD SHIT HAPPENS. You end up with a failed state and perpetual tribal warfare.

Okay, bad shit happens.

So far, it's only to a guy who has molested an 8 year old girl.

There's such a thing as "One and done"

The state is currently failing at being competent, fair, and impartial. Or at least being perceived as such.

exactly Atkins, and thats where we're at now

Might I point out, the guy hadn't been to trial yet.

Some fires just go out.

Y'know?

8 year old girl. Kill that guy. Okay done.

@Grenade123 but making the decision that a man accused of child molestation was not a danger to the community is an obviously terrible decision.

I agree with Grenade,

And the raping of a child was still an "accusation"

But the article did state he posessed CP

A society that refuses to take basic steps to protect its children is sick.

I think the CP is neither here nor there, if he obtained it without buying it.

I think it's SKEEVY.

But I'm only really upset when he's fueled the machine itself.

However, he molested. Now I want him to die.

And he is dead. So I'm happy.

Agreed, but it's also possible it was a false accusation with planned evidence. We don't know because it didn't get to trail

well, we don't know if he did molest anyone

Of course he should go to trial. I am not claiming that he should not go to trial. I am claiming the exact opposite.

If this was all a bitter revenge plot by the girlfriend?

What I am claiming is that if someone has been arrested on probable cause of a violent offense, they should remain in custody until trial.

A false accusation of the worst kind? And this is PROVEN?

I think she should serve life, or worse.

This man was arrested, there was deemed enough reasonable claims that he needs to defend himself, and he was killed before getting the chance to dsipute.

And that releasing them on such a low bail is evidence that the state was not competent.

30,000 is not low at all.

I'm surprised he was able to meet it.

I can haul $30k out of my ass

I couldn't.

That would put me away forever.

"Haha you're poor"

Is that what you're gonna say?

Because yup.

Got me.

No, I'm probably 10-15 years older than you with sufficient time to accrue wealth.

I'm 31.

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Anyhow, that is a very low bail. Bail for a violent offense can easily be hundreds of thousands.

@Scribblehatch is legal . Anal?

--Answer me

Are you still older or not

Stop being an attention whore.

that means no 😛

Your finances are irrelevant.

You MINECART TRACK JUMPING motherfucker.

You said something that I either proved false or didn't.

GIVE US THE ANSWER.

I am older.

I haz a meme

How much?

Jesus Christ you are insufferable.

--lol

Why are you getting so mad?

Everything has to be about you and your obsessions.

We just want answers.

Every fucking conversation you're in has to revolve around you.

o: Answer the question silly.

Are you this bad in real life?

My goodness.

Why are you stalling.

This nigga is really struggling. C'man fella.

don't worry, this could be worse.... it could be cali where they got ride of bail.

bail paid by taxpayer money? 😛

ABOLISH PROFITS

tbh, never got the point of bail.

Nor do I.

"hey, lets let the rich go free to fuck with people again but keep the poor locked up."

Probably a holdover from the Victorian era

Jackie Brown had a good take on bails

"You can get out, if you're a bond villain."

Bail should be relative to a persons income, Rich people paying lots is good money

"Poor people get trapped, but true megalomaniacs can go."

either you are a danger of running or of committing a crime again, or you are not. none of this "you must make x money to be considered not a danger"

So noblemen wouldn't be forced to stay in Newgate with the rabble.

"This is an outrage. I want to go back to my volcano base. I have money!!"

"Oh. Sorry about that sir. Where are the keys.."

```Bail should be relative to a persons income, Rich people paying lots is good money```
Nah nah nah, this would be a RENAISSANCE of crooked police.

Too much profit for all the wrong reasons.

i wouldn't be fine with getting rid of bail all together and just make those who would or are on bail go free until their court date. If they miss their court date, they get a bounty on their head.

I think the idea originally was,

Rich people have assets which they can't just run away with, so are inclined to stay
Whilst poor people can just leave the country and try somewhere else

Imagine if that were the case during the OJ trial.

The accusations that the police did outlandish planting would suddenly become VERY BELIEVABLE

You don't want that.

Bail itself is just strange.

As it stands I think people perceive bail as being a remedy for spurious charges. If the state was competent enough such that the overwhelming majority of those arrested would actually be convicted, I think bail would be abolished.

@Dr.Wol if that was the thought, that person is very naive. Given that rich people would have the money to leave the country in a hurry while poor people can mostly just walk and run. i.e. much easier to find a running poor person than a rich one.

Thats currently, cuz money is electronic

If you're deemed a flight risk they won't set bail.