Good morning vietnam!

Morning guys

https://www.iol.co.za/business-report/economy/fuel-strike-9-wage-increase-wanted-2050459

R20 a litre here we come...

The mob is already pissy about the fuel price.

There just isn't any money available to reduce fuel costs, and we sold all our oil reserves secretely.

secretly*

Plus we're scrapping etolls, THAT also needs to be paid now somehow.

Oi dis n kakspul

Begin solank die ossewaens inspan ouens

@TruthCanary Ja want daars nie petrol nie, lol

Ons het gister n bul op veiling gekoop, hy sal maar moet wa trek lol

Ditsem! @Arcade_Hustle, you just advanced to level 10!

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When we having a meet up in JHB?

Moring guys and girls! I hope you have a great day and please don’t get banned on Twitter.

https://www.usaf.org.za/

Lol I was listening to you guys @Rational Gent last night talking about a cilvl war and urban warfare and the use of drones this made me think of the chat last night https://twitter.com/poprawnik2/status/1021838765982134272?s=21

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GOSA : Gun Owners of South Africa
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What would you say if I told you that the SAPS have conceded that you may renew an expired licence (at any time), "on good cause shown"?

What would you say if I told you that SAPS have intentionally been breaking the law since February 2016 by not allowing this?

What would you say if I told you that SAPS have intentionally and deliberately disabled their IT system to cause it to reject late renewal applications? ... in breach of the Act!

What would you say if I told you that Brigadier Vishnu Naidoo is A LIAR? He, and every other SAPS officer who perpetuate the lie that late renewals are not possible, and that the only recourse for people with expired licences is to surrender the firearms to the SAPS for destruction are liars and are perpetrating a fraud on the South African public.

Guys, orders are orders didn't work in Nuremberg either!

The National Commissioner of SAPS has just conceded this to us in his sworn statement.

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@Daniebees When a UFO landed in Africa in the 1400's

@Willem Petzer http://www.vvk.co.za/bio. What is the opinions on the VVK?

Morning guys

@$P!KY\/!k!NG wouldn't be surprised to be honest.

@Malcolm the Seceder morning there

VKK?

This VVK? http://www.vvk.co.za/

Spikyviking I would say I believe you. Any stumbling block that they can use to disarm us they will use it. The trick is to make the system to obtain or renew firearm license as difficult as possible so then 90% of the people give up on getting firearm license or go hand in their old once when the cant renew. The SAP then hands out those firearms to criminals to do cash in transit heists and farm attacks.

@Penkop I was looking at a semi automatic HK rifle-5.56 AR style. The prices are insane. basically a small second hand car's cost. Apart from jumping through hoops to get a Firearm legally you further impacted by cost. I am curious stats wise how many crimes have been committed by legal gun owners. So does the system work or are the legal gun owners not enough for there to be significant increase in firearms crimes?

@Graeme the Guerrilla I'm sure you can contact GOSA and ask.

@Penkop That is the usual communist MO

I am waiting for my competancy from SAP , 3 months and counting. Once I get that I can apply for a licence +- another 6 months. Realistically you are looking at 1 year to get licensed up. Or at least that has been my experience in western cape.

I would be surprised it is in the low digits. I mean who do you know who was or is a legal gun owner. That committed crime. Oscar? I can maybe only list him. Which is a Segway into this then. Why are firearms so hard to attain legally if legal firearm owners are not at all contributing to actual crime. Which then maybe donning my Tin Foil hat could it be a white armed citizen who feels threatened is seen as a threat to a mostly black government? Because who will likely be shot in said crime Korean store owners?

Exactly Captain Obvious

@Penkop This is why people get non lethal "weapons" because its a ball ache to get an actual gun. Its easier to go buy a crossbow or a pepperball gun.

Crossbow! Now there is an option I have not considered yet. Thanks

Every time I see those hordes of looters run at police like in Hermanus I keep thinking about that scene in Braveheart where they threw oul down onto the battle field the night before and when the english soldiers came at them they simply set them alight

@Penkop A little white SAPS birdie told my dad he should not really carry his gun because if he shot someone. The cop said he will go to jail. Mind you we talking actual crime happening to my dad.

Ja, dont go around waving your weapon when you get cut off in traffic. There are certain criteria that you must adhere to before you are justified to shoot the skollie. Im no expert but basically it boils down to you must be able to prove you feared for your life or limb. Now that is very broad and open to so many loop holes. Just remember this: the law is not on your side at all. If you have to use your weapon ,make sure it is justified otherwise you will end up in jail and the skollie will walk away.