plus Western culture (I mean *real* Western culture) can accommodate outgoing individuals of both genders while respecting normal gender roles

Women will become women again when men become men again. I’ve known waaaay too many guys who are incapable of supporting a woman and family and have no real plan of action to change that

Falangist women would go into cafes and ask men why they weren't fighting, and then present them a tiny sized uniform

^brutal neg

Took 60-100 years of shenanigans to get us in this mess, it will likely take 60-100 years of hard work to get to a sustainable and healthy place

Yes. @Wood-Ape - OK/MN

I always say if you act and dress like a lady, you will be treated as a lady. I notice, though this is an anecdote, that it brings about protective instincts from men.

It wont take 60-100 years...

But I'm sorry for detailing the topic.

It took 60-100 years to do all of this by the back door

We can roll it back pretty fast.

Why are you sorry for detailing the topic? lol It's an important topic

Plus we have like two girls so we don't get the girl perspective much

@Koba Just saying be prepared for 60-100 / three generations of slow slog
If it's less, that's great. I would love to see a better world.

Well I'm a woman. I just apologize to capitulate.

Sounds gay man. People often rise to their own expectations.

lol

Fair enough

@Koba Lots of smart people in the dissident right say this is a generational struggle, and expecting things faster could be LARPing. I don't think not-LARPing is gay.

Tend to agree that this is going to take some time

I think its entirely unrealistic to expect that friend. Lots of smart people in the dissident right dont do much outside of talk to the same people & the same audience.

Idk about three generations of time, but it's not going to happen over night

@Koba Oh, my family is prepared for any bizarre turn of events. I'm just not expecting (nor advocating) any Ron Paul It's happening . jpg

The main thing is that we're actually working towards making real changes. Tbh I'm getting really tired of the accelerationist types

It's human nature: the easiest way to gain resistance to something, is to try to force it on people.

They need to be presented with the ideas and allowed to decide for themselves if they'll accept it and support it.

I think a good walk outside of the dissident echo chamber can do loads of good

Some people get way to deep into this stuff and it becomes all they identity with

@Kingfish This is very true.

@Kingfish I purposefully listen to NPR and some center-left and civic-libertarian, as well as radical environmenalist media. To avoid "echo Chamber"

Oh. . NPR. . The feminism on that station is thick! Whew! I also listen to the opposing side to study and learn. @Wood-Ape - OK/MN

I don’t mean listening to more than right wing media I moreso mean just engaging in every day life not looking at it through the radical lens

@The Morrígan Yeah, it's good to listen to on the drive TO the gym. to get you angry lol

we get it u like football

NPR is basically the lefts version of the dissident right echo chamber except not quite as severe sometimes

Terry Gross certainly has a face for radio

@Natasha - PA watch it

@Natasha - PA watch it

@Koba NPR is normie-left. The Left equivalent of TRS/etc is Chapo Trap House

Yes. It is healthy to do so. It can also be very frustrating if done too much. I have also had to find the balance. @Kingfish

eh I suppose