@Virgil Leif Erikson represents a continuous link in Europeans attempting to colonize the Americas.

he was simply the first of that chain

that we know of

@Jacob Remember I did say they should come in reasonable numbers? I'm not saying any amount of European should just pour in. I'm disagreeing with zero immigration.

Cute redheads *only*

I would have no problems with a bunch of blond blue-eyed Scandinavians pouring in

I wonder what kind of gender imbalance merit based immigration would create?

Would probably be more men, but to what degree?

always weirds me out that people actually want immigrants

America brought in a ton of Chinese but banned the women

@Rabbidsith No, because the chain was broken, after he left. His expedition and colony had no impact on Europe. After Columbus, there was sustained colonization of the Americas. After Eriksson there wasn't.

@Sam Southern - TN dude I totally agree with that

Well there are more jobs than people to fill them rn, that's why

@sigruna14 Okay. Sorry if I straw manned you, I'm just trying to get your point of you. How do we determine the criteria for reasonable immigration?

I'm pro European immigration

im gucci scaramucci

Hey do you guys know what Japan is doing to plug holes in their labor system caused by falling birth rates

robots!

that's a stance I can get behind @Gumbo - AZ

I'm also fine with increasing the cost of goods so that Americans can be paid more to do work they don't want to right now

@Jacob Well I guess that would require some calculations from economists, demographers etc. I don't think I'm qualified to give a number. But I'd want it to obviously not harm our economy, or our culture. I mean, for a small town, probably reasonable to have one or two immigrant families, just to throw a number out there.

@Virgil https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/10-european-colonies-that-failed-in-america-before-jamestown/

I will pay $4 for an orange I swear to god if it meant no roaming bands of MS13 killing teenage girls

what

Maine imports Eastern Europeans instead of non whites, used to import the Irish. Lotta qt slav girls in tourist areas up there

sorry 1 letter off

@Virgil Leif Erikson was nothing more than the first explorer in the chain.

big difference

@Virgil Again, Neil Armstrong never established a permanent colony on the moon.

@Rabbidsith that's what you think

he's still there fam

@Virgil So you can discount him only if you discount Neil

>thinking the moon or neil armstrong exist

ok globies

@sigruna14 That's fair. What would you consider a valid reason to immigrate?

gibs

@Jacob Same as whyever the original settlers did I guess. Adventure, better life, I have no idea why someone would immigrate here.

@Jacob government mandated gf

Since I never did it and by definition never will.

Just read this:
"In 1997, *U.S. News and World Report* did a survey asking people who was most likely to get into heaven when they died. President Bill Clinton scored 54 percent, Michael Jordan got 65 percent, and Mother Teresa received 79 percent. But who scored the highest? Who did people answering the survey feel was 87 percent likely to get into heaven? 'Me'"

Gibs was being facetious

@Virgil There is actually a broken chain in *every* attempt at colonization.