No, originally it looked more like the original proud boys though.

The proud boys are filled with spergs and nonwhites who just want to brawl with antifa and thus catch federal charges. Total waste of time.

ah yes the days when IE was full of Based Minorities(TM) just like PB 😏

Lmao

He’s out, for better or worse.

Bye Felicia...

I don't mind decentralized wignats stirring the pot on twitter; but for an organization to last and actually accomplish something good we need to distance ourselves from dudes like that.

Certainly

Nothing can be done without broad base of sympathy and support. And that can't happen without a good image that is pro-White but respectable. Unfortunate but true. If you need to, just think of it as white Taqiyya.

Not a bad way to view it

optics has been proven critical

There are no lies in our views though, it's not taqiyya.

We ARE the well adjusted, intelligent leaders of this movement.

Yeah, our public and private position have to be effectively the same.

I wad trying to appeal to him but I guess he was banned while I was typing. oh well

Replace "optics" or "framing "or "branding" with "strategy", honestly.

IE not what it use to be.. Tf
Sure things have changed but idk how you relate it to anything that dude was spewing

@Papa Pizzagate sure.

Marketing talk nauseates me, but I understand the value

Only seriously disturbed people fail to recognize that this is the best iteration of IE that has ever existed.

Perhaps there was some good times in 2016 but the organization was simply not where it is now.

"Yeah, our public and private position have to be effectively the same." @Papa Pizzagate yeah one of the things I've been surprised about is that listening to @Reinhard Wolff 's public interviews and his firesides they are effectively the same thing.

IE surviving where others have fallen is proof enough for me

Yep, IE has never had a more “right” idea than it does right now. All across the board

IE continues to refine itself in the correct direction

Seriously. Back on the good timeline folks. No time for maladjusted whignats.

@⚡Clark⚡ exactly "IE isn't what it used to be before" well we had plenty of mistakes before we don't now so thanks

"hey guys I was inspired to join by Eli Mosley!"

*Shutters*

I have sympathy for spergs. It is what happens when people get Red Pilled too fast but are atomized. I understand the security reasons for excluding them. Perhaps an IE approved but formally unaffilliated content creator could run a video series on how to be pro white, and even have unpopular opinions, but personally improve.

what's the lore/QRD on the previous tone and leadership of IE?

any time the media likes to slander IE they just bring up shit the previous two leaders said

which was, to be fair, some off-the-wall stuff

@tsea simply put Eli was not the right fit to lead IE

Helicopter Mom podcast has a good saying: "normalize the radicals to radicalize the normie"

Nathan liked to say here that Identitarianism saved his life. I feel the same way.

I was literally just about to talk to someone about that guy.

The one you just removed

And I wake up to this

Seems pledge period is a good idea.

He threw up a lot of red flags earlier