Message from @Gregory - NC

Discord ID: 513826184224571392


2018-11-18 19:55:51 UTC  

@Grossly Incandescent The gumball guy is cool, but everyone should have a basic version of this argument memorized since it's so simple and effective. The way @NateDahl76 summarized it was well said, though there's other ways to explain it, too.

2018-11-18 20:04:16 UTC  

It's probably one of the strongest arguments we have, because it breaks the frame. Generally both sides in the immigration debate argue assuming that allowing immigration does help people from the third world, it's just a question of whether it's worth it for us.

2018-11-18 20:06:36 UTC  

It's especially effective combined with the brain drain argument. Not only are we doing nothing to alleviate poverty, but we're making it worse. This really messes with them.

2018-11-18 20:25:42 UTC  

All well and good... but when was the last time you argued with a leftist who was arguing in good faith?

2018-11-18 20:26:07 UTC  

The only people you can really reach are people that want to be

2018-11-18 20:27:32 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/513812528036577295/20181118_142706.jpg

2018-11-18 20:27:49 UTC  

What did they mean by this?

2018-11-18 20:30:05 UTC  

(and no, I didn't bring IE stickers)

2018-11-18 20:38:30 UTC  

@Recombined Last time I argued with a leftist who was arguing in good faith was probably in class this quarter. I mean, their arguments are shitty, but I wouldn't say it's bad faith.

2018-11-18 20:39:41 UTC  

Leftists who argue in good faith aren't leftists. They're apolitical people who go with the flow.

2018-11-18 20:48:20 UTC  

Interesting. I've found genuine far leftists to be easier to speak to than NPCs a lot of the time.

2018-11-18 21:04:35 UTC  

Literal invasion

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/513821851391229975/image0.png

2018-11-18 21:08:28 UTC  

To whomever can answer this, do businesses have requirements for having mixed race advertisements? I see it everywhere, especially white women with black men, and the thought that almost every marketing team at almost every business makes their ads this way just by their own choice seems unlikely. Then again, some businesses don't do it, so is it a choice? Does anyone know if the businesses even do the ads themselves?

2018-11-18 21:11:58 UTC  

no lol

2018-11-18 21:14:21 UTC  

Consider this. A company doesn't do mixed race ads, it just makes normal ones with ratios of people that you would see in real life. Then someone points out that they don't have any mixed race ads, and leftists start a big conspiracy theory about how that company is "racist".

2018-11-18 21:16:06 UTC  

@Gregory - NC i have read that it's because blacks and women are more susceptible to advertising which is why companies feature them in so many ads. Although personally I think there's much more to it than that.

2018-11-18 21:17:36 UTC  

@Gregory - NC I feel like the “requirements” are self imposed. These people no longer need a quota or outside pressure to do these things.

2018-11-18 21:18:44 UTC  

There are two new shows on CBS where the plot revolves around a white guy adapting to an all black society

2018-11-18 21:21:48 UTC  

@Jacob @TV @Grossly Incandescent Thanks for feedback. I’ll read the counter currents article when I get back from work.

2018-11-18 21:22:06 UTC  

@Gregory - NC it's really apparent on clothing sites which use almost all black models yet feature styles and brands they would never wear.

2018-11-18 21:23:20 UTC  

well here's the thing

2018-11-18 21:23:42 UTC  

no one is going to criticize a company for having too much diversity unless they want to be branded racist

2018-11-18 21:24:03 UTC  

but the crazier leftists are going to criticize it for being too white

2018-11-18 21:24:14 UTC  

but the crazier leftists are going to criticize it for being too white

2018-11-18 21:25:58 UTC  

It’s not always crazy leftists either. Jilted employees or employees who realize they can make a quick buck have been a problem for me several times.

2018-11-18 21:26:29 UTC  

They can call the labor board and complain you aren’t advertising enough diversity and that it’s a hostile environment therefore.

2018-11-18 21:27:54 UTC  

Very first thing on the Pendleton website

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/513827718383534100/20181118_132723.jpg

2018-11-18 21:28:31 UTC  

Wow a black couple, how horrifying.

2018-11-18 21:28:34 UTC  

I was pleased to see Robb and Gunn only has white models

2018-11-18 21:28:37 UTC  

First thing on Brooks Brothers Men site

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/513827899942633472/20181118_132819.jpg

2018-11-18 21:28:40 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/513827909568561152/image0.png

2018-11-18 21:28:52 UTC  

And the cover of their catalog is Chad.

2018-11-18 21:30:01 UTC  

I don’t see a problem with promoting healthy black couples. I wish that were the norm.

2018-11-18 21:30:18 UTC  

@Grossly Incandescent great article

2018-11-18 21:31:47 UTC  

I'm just posting examples.

2018-11-18 21:31:59 UTC  

Tbh with the state of modern advertising im perfectly fine seeing a black couple

2018-11-18 21:32:35 UTC  

@TV Why is that black man not embracing a white woman? Is Pendleton RACIST?

2018-11-18 21:34:54 UTC  

Our boy Tariq gets it too

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/513829480532279296/image0.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/513829481295904778/image1.jpg

2018-11-18 21:35:28 UTC  

Oh would you look at that.