@NateDahl76 lotta populist-socialists in that crowd huh <:4dchess:439923932062154782>

@sigruna14 Yeah, I kinda followed a similar trajectory [Stalinism->Trotskyism->Leninism->Focoism/Guevarism->Socialism of the 21st Century->Luxemburgism->Democratic Socialism->Social Democracy->Libertarian Socialism->Classical Liberalism->Objectivism->AnCap->Agorism->Market Anarchism->Rothbard-Rockwell-Hoppe-Doolittle Helicopter (Anarchist) Paleolibertarianism->Paleoconservatism->National Conservatism->Traditionalist Conservatism->Monarchism->Propertarianism->Identitarianism]

I did go through a brief period when I was like 14, probably stemming mostly from edginess, where I wanted the political system my Uncle had in mind

jesus christ that is quite detailed @Bjorn - MD

I think the Tea Party got sucked into the machine (or the swamp), and spit out as establishment GOP after a couple years @TylerHess

@Sam Southern - TN <:avtism:359037377919844352> 😏

@NateDahl76 most white DemSocs are just edgy kids who want free healthcare

@Asatru Artist - MD They got bullied by the IRS and then were quickly cucked and compromised into basic pumpkin spice latte neocons

I’m guessing

@Papa Pizzagate Civnats are likely are largest recruiting pool. I'm not trying to purity spiral here and say we shouldn't infiltrate Republicans, I'm just saying we shouldn't delude ourselves that civnats are 80% there.

I might actually be more optimistic than you in this situation, because I do think that we can over time bring people all the way.

@Bjorn - MD is that actually real?

I don’t think everyone needs to be an esoteric evropan to stop globalism and heavily improve our situation

We need the kids that just like Trump and hate leftists.

@Jacob Lol. Yeah. Probably left some stuff out and screwed up the order, but more or less.

(Omitting some ideologies, obviously.)

@Bjorn - MD
>Unironic monarchism to propertarianism

@fgtveassassin distributism is the redpill man

@fgtveassassin Actually not much of a stretch. Most, if not all propertarians are monarchists.

distributist monarchy

@Kingfish I think we assume that our views are more esoteric than they actually are. We'd be liberals compared to the typical American in the 50s.

But, I mean, I don't disagree with you, things can improve over where they are now even if people aren't all the way there.

@Bjorn - MD Gonna be real with you chief, not really sure what Propertarianism was until like 3 minutes ago but it seemed like ancap in a way

I don't think pro white is esoteric at all

I think the way it is portrayed is

lol you might be a liberal compared to a 50's American, not all of us are tho

I think you can tap into pro white sentiment implicitly

once you start preaching Identitiarian theory it gets lost in the weeds. but invoke the secondary level or the effects of a pro white system and its basically trump's campaign platform

Literally "What about White People?"

@fgtveassassin Pretty much. I'm not an authority, but it's a modeled in such a way as to minimize the rise of situations in which the state would be demanded to arbitrate. In other words, to allow for as libertarian a society as possible, while preventing free-riding and other anti-social behavior (i.e. degeneracy), and allowing for a commons.

@Sam Southern - TN eh, I'd say I'm one of the more... "further right" members here, but, I mean, the barrier of entry to get into IE basically requires you to be a liberal from the 50s at the least.

The way Tucker combats the Left's use of Racial politics is in an implicitly pro white way, unlike how "civnats" who typically reject the concept of Identity politics at all go about it

The 50s were already fallen

which is why I'd argue Tucker is not a "civnat" in the derogatory way it is said around here

he is very clearly a far right populist

or as I would just say "nationalist"

I guess it would depend on what you mean by "preaching identitarian theory"

which is all that really has to be said

tucker far right? naw. populist? absolutely.

@fgtveassassin The more I learn about metapolitics and activism, though, at least under the present dispensation, I'd actually say that I'm an unironic illiberal democrat now (with a lower-cased "d") 😎

Well he's not a left wing populist, and third position is pretty much a waste of time to get into

so by default, Far right.

lol he's just right wing, he's not far right by any stretch