Message from @TylerHess
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@Asatru Artist - MD To be honest, it depends what kind of civnat and what kind of commie.
For example, the modern communist party in Russia is pretty solid on immigration.
>insert pipeline meme about libertarians to AR from 2015
hoteps
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@Jacob I'm not a one issue voter and no amount of "solid on immigration" is getting me to go along with Commies.
@Asatru Artist - MD Just saying by pure population.
Yeah, CivNats are fertile ground for sure.
lol the Russian communist party is about as communist as the Russian liberal democratic party is liberal democratic
Internet racists as unfortunate as it is to admit is a very small fraction of the sphere, and if we want to really gain any form of influence or infrastructure down the road weโre gonna need to maintain a relatively similar direction to the rest of the growing anti globalist coalition
Libertarian, I thought it was the best way to help whites without saying so while simultanously being nice to the talented tenth, that delusion has been shattered by reality
@Alex Kolchak - NY they are hilarious, cause those communists actually long for better days
I sincerely believe that if the DSA were destroyed via racial tensions and accusations of racism, we would get a ton of apps in the following months ๐๐ especially if we up our name recognition among them
I was curious to see if the Tea Party could have done something productive too and it didn't
@NateDahl76 lotta populist-socialists in that crowd huh <:4dchess:439923932062154782>
@sigruna14 Yeah, I kinda followed a similar trajectory [Stalinism->Trotskyism->Leninism->Focoism/Guevarism->Socialism of the 21st Century->Luxemburgism->Democratic Socialism->Social Democracy->Libertarian Socialism->Classical Liberalism->Objectivism->AnCap->Agorism->Market Anarchism->Rothbard-Rockwell-Hoppe-Doolittle Helicopter (Anarchist) Paleolibertarianism->Paleoconservatism->National Conservatism->Traditionalist Conservatism->Monarchism->Propertarianism->Identitarianism]
I did go through a brief period when I was like 14, probably stemming mostly from edginess, where I wanted the political system my Uncle had in mind
jesus christ that is quite detailed @Bjorn - MD
I think the Tea Party got sucked into the machine (or the swamp), and spit out as establishment GOP after a couple years @TylerHess
@Sam Southern - TN <:avtism:359037377919844352> ๐
@NateDahl76 most white DemSocs are just edgy kids who want free healthcare
@Asatru Artist - MD They got bullied by the IRS and then were quickly cucked and compromised into basic pumpkin spice latte neocons
Iโm guessing
@Papa Pizzagate Civnats are likely are largest recruiting pool. I'm not trying to purity spiral here and say we shouldn't infiltrate Republicans, I'm just saying we shouldn't delude ourselves that civnats are 80% there.
I might actually be more optimistic than you in this situation, because I do think that we can over time bring people all the way.
@Bjorn - MD is that actually real?
I donโt think everyone needs to be an esoteric evropan to stop globalism and heavily improve our situation
We need the kids that just like Trump and hate leftists.
@Jacob Lol. Yeah. Probably left some stuff out and screwed up the order, but more or less.
(Omitting some ideologies, obviously.)
@Bjorn - MD
>Unironic monarchism to propertarianism
@fgtveassassin distributism is the redpill man
@fgtveassassin Actually not much of a stretch. Most, if not all propertarians are monarchists.
distributist monarchy
@Kingfish I think we assume that our views are more esoteric than they actually are. We'd be liberals compared to the typical American in the 50s.
But, I mean, I don't disagree with you, things can improve over where they are now even if people aren't all the way there.
@Bjorn - MD Gonna be real with you chief, not really sure what Propertarianism was until like 3 minutes ago but it seemed like ancap in a way
I don't think pro white is esoteric at all
I think the way it is portrayed is
lol you might be a liberal compared to a 50's American, not all of us are tho
I think you can tap into pro white sentiment implicitly
once you start preaching Identitiarian theory it gets lost in the weeds. but invoke the secondary level or the effects of a pro white system and its basically trump's campaign platform
Literally "What about White People?"
@fgtveassassin Pretty much. I'm not an authority, but it's a modeled in such a way as to minimize the rise of situations in which the state would be demanded to arbitrate. In other words, to allow for as libertarian a society as possible, while preventing free-riding and other anti-social behavior (i.e. degeneracy), and allowing for a commons.