Message from @Jacob
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J Peterson, get on this
You don’t get near the virtue signaling power from picking up your backyard lol
When we did the LA River cleanup it was nearly all middle class whites volunteering
More Johnny Appleseed, less Solyndra
More Aldo Leopold
What other people plants gardens just because they look nice?
@William Russell I couldn't find the answer to your income question but I found something else interesting while I was looking
Whatcha got?
We present a theory of the basis of support for a social movement. Three types of support (citizenship actions, policy support and acceptance, and personal-sphere behaviors that accord with movement principles) are empirically distinct from each other and from committed activism. Drawing on theoretical work on values and norm-activation processes, we propose a value-belief-norm (VBN) theory of movement support. Individuals who accept a movement's basic values, believe that valued objects are threatened, and believe that their actions can help restore those values experience an obligation (personal norm) for pro-movement action that creates a predisposition to provide support; the particular type of support that results is dependent on the individual's capabilities and constraints. Data from a national survey of 420 respondents suggest that the VBN theory, when compared with other prevalent theories, offers the best available account of support for the environmental movement.
>420 respondents
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Seems to be what @missliterallywho and @Alexander Pechorin were getting at right?
TL;DR: Willingness to support a political movement depends on (1) people agree with the basic premises, (2) people feel like that there is a genuine threat, and (3) people believe that they can do something about it
I was thinking start small and grow outwards
@missliterallywho 420 is not a bad sample size as long as it is representative of the general population. Or did you just think it sounds funny because of the number?
Sounds like the impetus behind the identitarian movement
Most people seem to have a prob with 3
Maybe
@Jacob joke implying environmentalists are *green* in more ways than one
I don’t see anything I do making a difference when there’s Delhi and Beijing doing their thing.
Maybe Identitarianism is making the difference like someone suggested
I find that a lot of my friends are a problem with number 2. So often it happens that they'll agree with all my premises, but they're still liberal because they don't feel threatened
Global environmentalism requires very different actions than national environmentalism
I’d never separated the two. I’ve always thought of environmentalism as a global thing
I’m expanding the way I think
I have a friend who hates Trump and she was able to summarize my talking points in a very fair way and didn't even claim that they were invalid. She just doesn't give a shit because she doesn't feel threatened yet.
Appreciate you guys
We should be focusing on preserving American wilderness. Immigration is the biggest threat.
Our education system def frames it as a global crisis
National Eco action should be maintaining topsoil, opposing Big Ag, and reducing population density. Global Eco action would be war with China
@Jacob I see your point. Your right my goal is to persuade. My persuasion method to pull them to my world view. But I am no great expert, that us just my personal tactic.
PSA: don't confront orcs about littering
Talking to my friends is like that Spongebob meme where the superhero guy tells Patrick a bunch of statements and Patrick is like "sounds about right" but at the end he still disagrees
I'll have friends accept every single fucking premise and at the end still by like "Drumpf lol"
It’s what the cool kids are doing.. according to Late night TV
@Jacob um i beleive that's ManRay you're referring to <:really:453005408064241674>
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I mean honestly, I prefer this kind of mentality to outright denying the premises
It's a step