what it actually looks like

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pls no bully Romania

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@Jacob I agree that hostility to Russia is silly, but when people say Eastern Europe they mean Byzantine influenced Orthodox countries that were descended from the Kievan Rus. Poland is none of those, plus it is geographically in the center of Europe

Every world power is selfish. America would eat up smaller countries if it could, too. The trick is creating a mutually beneficial partership so they have no need to do that. @Alex Kolchak - NY

Ukraine had that for a while, until their government chose to pick a fight with Russia and play victim

@Virgil The way I understand it is that Eastern Europe is Slavic + heavily Slavic influenced countries. Sure, Poland is different from East Slavs, but it definitely has more in common culturally with Russia than Germany.

Putin isn't a white nationalist, he's a russian nationalist. He can be expected to like us when we aren't the dominant power in the west, and to turn on us the moment we are, unless us attaining predominant influence coincides with china getting really out of control and wanting to gang up against them.

I don't necessarily disagree with that

Great job making member of the month @Argument of Perigee

+1. this is something a lot of people forget

Russians’ concept of race and Russian identity is not just Russian=white

or even Russian=European

Did anyone else hear about Hiembach getting thrown out of the NSM lol

to be fair my concept is a bit more complex than that too @Alex Kolchak - NY

I don't like pan Europeanism

of course, just like I acknowledge that America is not historically a purely- white country

I like it to the extent that it prevents brother wars

but I’m against trying to lump all of Europe into one identity

maybe even “distant cousin” wars.. but still, family

@V.Balboa - PA I did not hear that. They brought him on knowing his misdeeds, what made them kick him out?

Europe should end up what the US was intended to be with harsher, closed borders: a union of sovereign States (Nation is a better word in this context) with a mutual defense contract/pact

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN that he was a communist/strasserist

@Sam Southern - TN That was no secret either

@Sam Southern - TN agreed

I'm not in IE because I want some weird Spencerian pan-European empire. I'm in IE because (1) I don't want to be a typical subversive immigrant and I actually support the best interests of my host society, and (2) if nationalism wins in America, it wins in other places, too.

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN they said he is a communist

lol I bet Spencer pictured himself in charge of said empire

every post-america thinker pictures themselves as the absolute rulers of whatever state they imagine

Emperor Richard I Alcoholicus

The struggle reveals the leader, not the other way around. Just more putting of carts before horses.

Pope Dick the Pious

yeah, it’s fun to meme about hypotheticals but in reality we gotta support every (productive) form of European/American nationalism and (peacefully) help move it along, whichever path that ends up taking

@Sam Southern - TN Old crazy Covington had the tiny bit of self awareness in his otherwise LARPtastic bad optics novels to cast his self insert character as a senile old coot that the characters remove from power for being stubborn and difficult.

harold has some good takes and some horrific takes. that is one of the good ones

@Sam Southern - TN agreed.
He was an heir to the Serta mattress company IIRC

Old money LARPers. He and Spencer alike

@Alex Kolchak - NY I basically support the highest possible level of autonomy. Maybe a self defense pact along white countries would be useful, but nothing more than that.

More Duolinguo notes. Romanian is bizzare Spanish

that’s a good goal. Also communities that are as voluntary as possible. So, for example, if Basques or Bretons want their own little nation, that’s not necessarily a bad thing and should be allowed within reason