Im pretty sure though Patrick is descended from the King of Ireland

Stupid Laws destroy nations. Loyalty to them above your people is silly.

how can Ireland have a throne if it can't even have it's whole country LOL

@Perihelion - CA never said I was more loyal to law than nation

@Perihelion - CA Loyalty to your king was loyalty to your people big guy.

Except when the king was senile and weak

just saying to deny legalism is stupid and quite a bad idea.

Then a better Lord rebelled and ruled.

And made up a justificstion post facto

@Perihelion - CA That had more to do with royal families inbreding.

Ignoring laws is only a bad idea if they're enforced. The fact of their enforcement is proof of the power of the ruler.

Acknowledge power as it is

if loyalty to the king was loyalty to the people, then overthrowing bad kings and putting the next best Lord in his place is legitimate yeah? even though it's not a legal succession?

@Sam Southern - TN Depends on the situation really and why that king was bad.

(not a monarchist, don't know how yall monarchists work, honestly curious)

I'm not a monarchist either

The huns had a Divine right to rule Baghdad because they could.

I think Monarchy is big gey

Monarchy is cringe and bluepilled

Im sympathetic to Monarchists but fail to see how it would work in the US since no king.

Monarchy seems like a long term version of fascism lol

eh

Monarchy is the most heavenly form of government

some would agree

> let's just give the king's son power and see what happens lmao how could this go wrong

Monarchy is bad tbh

it just seems like fascism with a defined line of succession

the monarchy dice is a bad roll a lot of the time

The great chain of being extends from God down to the King down to the family patriarch

Best Roman emperors were all adopted. Circulation of elites is important

@Sam Southern - TN Not really Fascism was an attempt to get close to what monarchy was before it was overthrown by Communists.

@SeanVV X

I'm way late to that conversation, but @Goose "What have they conserved?" Is may favourite.

Fascism was trying to fill the void monarchy left, not build on it

Let's just let Ivanka be the next president because muh monarch's child

Monarchy is not fascism and fascism is not attempt to make a secular Monarchy.

@Jacob epic women cant normally inherent

To be fair to the line is succession bit, I kinda see the logic that someone trained from birth to lead would theoretically be very well suited to lead.

Neither is Monachy totalitarian as the rings of hierarchy were, are, clearly defined and limited

@MrDefault okay let's let Baron be president without knowing what kind of person he'll grow up to be

@Sam Southern - TN agreed 100% it just sucks that it doesnt always work out that way