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2019-06-20 17:28:41 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Got any sources? ๐Ÿค”

2019-06-20 17:28:53 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Because it is shown that the early Church thought the Bishop of Rome was supreme.

2019-06-20 17:32:23 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

He inherits his position as the earthly head of the Church, that's all.

2019-06-20 17:32:54 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

wot

2019-06-20 17:33:24 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

@Deleted User Jesus is obviously the head of the Church, King of the Universe, but the Pope is like the Prime Minister and manages the Church on earth.

2019-06-20 17:34:05 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

yes

2019-06-20 17:34:29 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

It is also a sin to call your father your father by that logic

2019-06-20 17:36:31 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

What's your question?

2019-06-20 17:38:09 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Well, they inherit their teaching authority and authority to bind and loose things.

2019-06-20 17:38:34 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Obviously the apostles are unique in that they actually experienced Jesus in person in this life.

2019-06-20 17:38:40 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

What?

2019-06-20 17:38:53 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

The mass was only in Latin because it was universal that way.

2019-06-20 17:39:16 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

The common person could understand enough Latin up till the 1800s or so

2019-06-20 17:41:04 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

@Oboe Bishops in general have unique authority (to bind and to loose) but the Pope is the universal legislator, so his legal powers are even above those. But yeah, he has unique powers. Don't get me wrong though, these are basically legal/religious powers, not supernatural powers.

2019-06-20 17:41:28 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Some do

2019-06-20 17:41:28 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Some do not

2019-06-20 17:41:39 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Depends on your jurisdiction

2019-06-20 17:43:00 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

@Oboe Jesus gave the bishops of the Church, the apostles, that power, and they passed it on to their successors in the Church. And yeah, the Pope is the one who binds and looses universally, though bishops and priests have some lesser authority in that (which in theory they get from the Pope, being under him).

2019-06-20 17:45:36 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

@Oboe The Church cannot violate divine law (so like bishops cannot legally say "murder is okay") or say some other formula used for baptism is acceptable ("in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit" is *divine* law laid down by Jesus Himself, so they cannot change that). But for inter-Church matters, like what language mass can be celebrated in or what form, etc, that's fair game.

2019-06-20 17:46:18 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

That's the limit of power, I'm saying, they cannot go beyond divine law.

2019-06-20 17:46:24 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Oh

2019-06-20 17:46:51 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

People only do when they are empowered by the Holy Spirit to do things like that.

2019-06-20 17:46:57 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

You could also ask why any minister cannot do that

2019-06-20 17:47:51 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Different people have these abilities at different times and different reasons, but that's only when it is the will of the Holy Spirit for that moment.

2019-06-20 17:48:36 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

They have authority over us

2019-06-20 17:49:03 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

@Deleted User God isn't bound to anybody or anything, He does what He pleases. Anybody could perform a miracle if God wills it so.

2019-06-20 17:49:40 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

???

2019-06-20 17:50:00 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Only the successors of the apostles are granted legitimate apostolic authority

2019-06-20 17:50:07 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Not authority to e.g., perform miracles

2019-06-20 17:50:30 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Yeah, whenever He wants to, that's up to Him

2019-06-20 17:50:56 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Yes, many

2019-06-20 17:51:29 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Men are fallible but the Holy Spirit is not

2019-06-20 17:52:54 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Not really, like they can, but it wouldn't be as reliable

2019-06-20 17:53:09 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Of course we have layman biblical scholars and everything

2019-06-20 17:53:24 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

But that's not the same as the teaching authority of the Church defining a doctrine

2019-06-20 17:57:56 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

I answer yes

2019-06-20 17:58:24 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Irenaeus knew John the Apostle and also met I think James the Greater

2019-06-20 17:59:54 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

muh female minister of communion

2019-06-20 18:02:34 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

OOF, I'm sorry, no, Irenaeus was Polycarp's student and *Polycarp* knew John

2019-06-20 18:02:45 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

He mentions that in these two

2019-06-20 18:05:22 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Silly Phil, Catholics don't read the *Bible*!!!

2019-06-20 18:05:28 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

JK, that's great! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

2019-06-20 18:08:00 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

The Didache isn't that long tbh

2019-06-21 18:39:27 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

No, it's the parents' job to discipline their children.

2019-06-21 18:41:21 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

But is it best for children psychologically? ๐Ÿค”

2019-06-21 18:42:39 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Beat your slaves senselessly and they resent you

2019-06-21 18:42:47 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Reward them for good behavior and they obey you

2019-06-21 18:44:22 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

It also really depends on your culture and location, people will respond very differently depending on these

2019-06-21 18:45:59 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

> Slavs
Yes, soulless people

2019-06-21 18:47:24 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Do you have studies to back this up?

2019-06-21 18:47:50 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

๐Ÿค”

2019-06-21 18:55:58 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Conan the Barbarian got ripped by hard labor ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

2019-06-21 18:56:05 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

That's why Arnold is massive.

2019-06-21 18:58:38 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

After death, you are judged (your *particular judgement*) and most of those destined for Heaven will be purged.

2019-06-21 19:01:05 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Purged of their sins, that is, not annihilated from existence.

2019-06-21 19:01:44 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

I know, lol, but it's also good to have your kids get ripped, wouldn't you agree? @Deleted User

2019-06-21 19:04:12 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

That's true, yeah.

2019-06-21 19:07:24 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Ingenious ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

2019-06-21 19:07:29 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Plus good for the environment

2019-06-21 19:07:30 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Win-win

2019-06-21 19:08:34 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Basically this

2019-06-21 19:08:45 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

because the Last Judgement is the last judgement

2019-06-21 19:09:59 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Well, all those in Purgatory at the end of time are purified and let out anyhow

2019-06-21 19:10:10 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

The Limbo of the Fathers anyhow, yeah

2019-06-21 19:10:13 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

But they are released

2019-06-21 19:13:06 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Yeah, God already calls everybody to Him day in and day out

2019-06-21 19:13:15 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Like it's constant

2019-06-21 19:13:17 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Every day

2019-06-21 19:21:34 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Well, the fact that God the Father provided Jesus as a sacrifice is indeed loving, so it's actually a matter of both.

2019-06-21 19:22:38 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

That's monarchianism

2019-06-21 19:22:49 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Jesus is *in essence* equal to God the Father

2019-06-21 19:23:13 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

In terms of honor He's below because that's where a son belongs, but in actually being God He's equal

2019-06-21 19:23:39 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Also called subordinationism, basically it's saying that somehow the Son or the Holy Spirit are less than the Father @Phil With Frankincense

2019-06-21 19:40:11 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

That much we can agree on, it's beyond our comprehension overall. We can only know so little.

2019-06-23 01:15:15 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

However, the science of pain has improved so much that we could basically cure pain for chronic conditions like arthritis or fibromyalgia (at least in a hospital setting).

2019-06-23 01:16:57 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Well, there are so many different methods anyhow

2019-06-23 01:17:05 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

leave that one up to the doctors lol

2019-06-23 01:17:20 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

But chronic pain can be dealt with in many different ways and that's the point

2019-06-23 01:17:34 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

yeah, so there are alternatives for long-term chronic pain

2019-06-23 01:18:32 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

#Me too

2019-06-23 01:18:45 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

> alone with a woman
> you get rich ten years later
> you are now a rapist

2019-06-23 01:23:32 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

30 years ago, lmao

2019-06-23 01:23:36 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Like the Trump accusation

2019-06-23 01:23:39 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

The most recent one

2019-06-23 01:23:50 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Not all the ones who backed out once their books were published

2019-06-23 01:25:38 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

"Oh, that guy is rich now"

2019-06-23 01:25:41 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

"Time to accuse him"

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