Message from @Spydig
Discord ID: 591709841207328778
You may call it unfair, you may say "a loving God wouldn't do that"
God is rarely portrayed as loving
That's Jesus's role
God is just
God as in the father
Jesus is God too. You run the risk of falling into Arianism talking like that
Well, the fact that God the Father provided Jesus as a sacrifice is indeed loving, so it's actually a matter of both.
@Phil With Frankincense That's why I just said God as in the father
To clarify
Jesus is *equal* to the father
And Jesus is less powerful than the Father
False
Heresy
Jesus says himself he is under the Father
Jesus is loyal to the father
As He is His father
That's monarchianism
I’ve not heard of that one Spy
Jesus is *in essence* equal to God the Father
In terms of honor He's below because that's where a son belongs, but in actually being God He's equal
Also called subordinationism, basically it's saying that somehow the Son or the Holy Spirit are less than the Father @Phil With Frankincense
John 14:28
**John 14:28 - Good News Translation (GNT)**
```Dust
<28> You heard me say to you, 'I am leaving, but I will come back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father; for he is greater than I. ```
This is all aside from the point of how a loving God damns people
"for he is greater than I"
Which the answer to that is he doesn't love them, he hates them.
He is only equal in the sense that are one being, God, of the same essence but seperate
And the father has knowledge that the Son does not have
Such as when the end times are
Perhaps the son relinquished the information voluntarily or maybe he just can't know
The Trinity is infinitly great and no one can understand even a fraction of it evensif you spent your entire life studying it
That much we can agree on, it's beyond our comprehension overall. We can only know so little.
God is fake news
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Christians are fake news