Obviously the apostles are unique in that they actually experienced Jesus in person in this life.

Does this not contradict latin mass?

What?

Right so it is the Pope alone who has unique powers?

The mass was only in Latin because it was universal that way.

Yea and vast majority do not understand

The common person could understand enough Latin up till the 1800s or so

It says it is better to say less but so that people understand

Rather than say much but people do not understand

And that’s why masses are said in vernacular now

And people still understand the mass even if it’s not in the language they speak

I'd rather be an ortho than a catholic tbh

Do not care

@Oboe Bishops in general have unique authority (to bind and to loose) but the Pope is the universal legislator, so his legal powers are even above those. But yeah, he has unique powers. Don't get me wrong though, these are basically legal/religious powers, not supernatural powers.

They say mass in Greek but anyways

@Phil With Frankincense No they dont but ok

So who gives the Bishops this power?

Some do

Some do not

They talk in the local tounge

Depends on your jurisdiction

Byzantine orthodox say mass in Koine Greek

The Power to loose and to bind was given exclusively to Peter, is it not?

@Oboe Jesus gave the bishops of the Church, the apostles, that power, and they passed it on to their successors in the Church. And yeah, the Pope is the one who binds and looses universally, though bishops and priests have some lesser authority in that (which in theory they get from the Pope, being under him).

Yeah

What he said

So at what point does that power cut off? Like, what powers did the Apostles have that their successors do not and why not?

Let’s also ignore the churches that still use Aramaic

All authority to teach and administer the sacraments is passed on from my understanding

@Oboe The Church cannot violate divine law (so like bishops cannot legally say "murder is okay") or say some other formula used for baptism is acceptable ("in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit" is *divine* law laid down by Jesus Himself, so they cannot change that). But for inter-Church matters, like what language mass can be celebrated in or what form, etc, that's fair game.

Well that wasn't my question

That's the limit of power, I'm saying, they cannot go beyond divine law.

What powers did the apostles have? In your view?

The apostles had the ability to heal the sick for instance, why do their successors not have this power?

Oh

The apostles didn’t heal the sick, Christ healed them *through* the apostles

ie the sacrament of unction

People only do when they are empowered by the Holy Spirit to do things like that.

You could also ask why any minister cannot do that

Okay so does Christ not work through their successors to do this then

He actually does