Message from @Spydig

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2019-06-20 17:34:13 UTC  

It is a sin to call Priests father

2019-06-20 17:34:27 UTC  

Wrong sweetie but continue

2019-06-20 17:34:29 UTC  

It is also a sin to call your father your father by that logic

2019-06-20 17:34:29 UTC  

@Spydig Thats middle man, which dosent exist

2019-06-20 17:34:40 UTC  

@Spydig I dont call my father father

2019-06-20 17:34:44 UTC  

You’re both Baptists?

2019-06-20 17:34:48 UTC  

I am yes

2019-06-20 17:34:58 UTC  

I am not trying to make the father meme

2019-06-20 17:35:06 UTC  

I have a genuine question

2019-06-20 17:36:17 UTC  

All people who are saved are saved by God’s grace alone. That grace is given to us upon our baptism. We can lose/reject that grace by committing mortal sin, and regain it in the sacrament of penance

2019-06-20 17:36:31 UTC  

What's your question?

2019-06-20 17:37:18 UTC  

If you are baptized and stray from God's path

2019-06-20 17:37:21 UTC  

My question is how much of the Apostle's power (specifically the Pope) do their successors inherit

2019-06-20 17:37:27 UTC  

You will still be thrown in the lake of fire

2019-06-20 17:38:02 UTC  

And if that power is not the full Apostolic power why the Pope is then to be considered special among other saved people

2019-06-20 17:38:09 UTC  

Well, they inherit their teaching authority and authority to bind and loose things.

2019-06-20 17:38:31 UTC  

1 Corinthians 14:19

2019-06-20 17:38:32 UTC  

**1 Corinthians 14:19 - Good News Translation (GNT)**

```Dust


<19> But in church worship I would rather speak five words that can be understood, in order to teach others, than speak thousands of words in strange tongues. ```

2019-06-20 17:38:34 UTC  

Obviously the apostles are unique in that they actually experienced Jesus in person in this life.

2019-06-20 17:38:36 UTC  

Does this not contradict latin mass?

2019-06-20 17:38:40 UTC  

What?

2019-06-20 17:38:52 UTC  

Right so it is the Pope alone who has unique powers?

2019-06-20 17:38:53 UTC  

The mass was only in Latin because it was universal that way.

2019-06-20 17:39:03 UTC  

Yea and vast majority do not understand

2019-06-20 17:39:16 UTC  

The common person could understand enough Latin up till the 1800s or so

2019-06-20 17:39:18 UTC  

It says it is better to say less but so that people understand

2019-06-20 17:39:32 UTC  

Rather than say much but people do not understand

2019-06-20 17:40:05 UTC  

And that’s why masses are said in vernacular now

2019-06-20 17:40:31 UTC  

And people still understand the mass even if it’s not in the language they speak

2019-06-20 17:40:46 UTC  

I'd rather be an ortho than a catholic tbh

2019-06-20 17:40:59 UTC  

Do not care

2019-06-20 17:41:04 UTC  

@Oboe Bishops in general have unique authority (to bind and to loose) but the Pope is the universal legislator, so his legal powers are even above those. But yeah, he has unique powers. Don't get me wrong though, these are basically legal/religious powers, not supernatural powers.

2019-06-20 17:41:08 UTC  

They say mass in Greek but anyways

2019-06-20 17:41:24 UTC  

@Phil With Frankincense No they dont but ok

2019-06-20 17:41:27 UTC  

So who gives the Bishops this power?

2019-06-20 17:41:28 UTC  

Some do

2019-06-20 17:41:28 UTC  

Some do not

2019-06-20 17:41:30 UTC  

They talk in the local tounge

2019-06-20 17:41:39 UTC  

Depends on your jurisdiction

2019-06-20 17:41:44 UTC  

Byzantine orthodox say mass in Koine Greek

2019-06-20 17:41:50 UTC  

The Power to loose and to bind was given exclusively to Peter, is it not?