lmao, why was an ancap of all things allowed in here

**lefty**pol

not sure this includes libs lmao

@National Trotskyist I know what classical liberalism is, and that guy definitely presents himself as one (I know him from another server, to my displeasure). And of course European liberals are the center-right, they're now attracting what used to be "socialist" parties (look at the bullshittery the PS and PCF are engaging in in France).

*nazbols are the real centrists*

imagine thinking that communist society will actually take place or last for more than 15 minutes

damn ya dun troll'd dem idealists ebik style xD

obviously, you are the only educated person here

yes, Satanlin personally butchered 300 gorillion innocent Christian Russians to death :DDD

😨

I wish jews were dead

baguette héhé

RIGHT NOW

stay mad wh*toids

pants off

shouldn't be too hard

Please report to your local detention center immediately.

^

victims of communism 😢

@ᵈˢʳ✪ nigga didn't he get shot? I'd say that's meritocratic

don't "punch" nazis like a cucked amerimutt antifa

lynch them

give them the bullet

the guillotine

ah yes

we need to have fascists belive we are working together

I've seen a lot of quasi-marxists become natsocs

breaks my heart every time

@Maoistcentury [1997um] wtf it's just the original music

lazy, very lazy

these niggera aren't singing

just replace the text with voices

like jason unruhe saying "socialism"

@Mr. X the ancap

And calling liberalism left-wing is just you speaking as an Amerimutt.

Did I call you an ancap? lol

So what does liberalisn mean?

I was referring to @theepicone

classical liberalism and neoliberalism are left-wing huh

I'd expect nothing else from an unironic Nietzchean

forgive me for questioning your ubermensch reason and logic <:merchant:323550879749898242>

I do know, I've read most of Nietzsche. He does raise a few interesting points, but I don't see how you can take him seriously when he only throws proclamations without argumenting them at all. It's very lyrical, I'll give you that. Somewhat like the Bible stylistically.

The biggest thing of interest is probably the philological work which you can still see a bit in *Twilight of the Idols*.

For example, if you read *The Wagner Case*, while I do agree with most of his points, he never delves into musicological analysis (even though he clearly has the ability to). And even the philosophical and psychological analyses are very brief.

I'n sure he has, but the reader is left without any of Nietzche's thinking process. It really is like a religious text.

That's contrary to the way most philosophers write. A thesis needs clarity to be evaluated objectively.

I suppose he would be closer to them, since he openly defecates on the Socratic dialectic which is at the base of Western philosophy.

I do love his writing style which is very inflammatory. Calling George Sand a "milking cow".

Dante a "grave-obsessed hyena".

Well, the clearer way of writing is not really "materialistic" since it focuses on the purely intellectual process. Nietzsche claimed to be the first Western materialist (of course, this is factually false).

I'm not that familiar with Eastern philosophers since European philosophical education basically forgets their existence. Most of the books I've read by them are more practical, concerning matters of law and strategy.

I think this is from *Ramblings of an Inactual*, let me find my copy and translate the passage

well it's jot here but I think it went like this

"I am the first to have taken into account the physical body. The greatest crime of philosophy is to have discarded it by inventing faraway and metaphysical realities which have yet to be proven" (this is probably very imprecise paraphrase)

Probably an egoist, he despised all kinds of social policies

As well as the rise of authoritarian patriotism in Germany, which he viewed as a sign of degeneracy

I'd say he was a primitivist in a sense

Which would explain his dislike of how Judeo-Christian faith weakened man

Christianity was for him proto-socialism, the heavily Judaistic revenge of the oppressed against the Aryan hierarchical cult of Hinduism

In some ways, Nietzsche might have been the first to state the intuition of Sartre's existentialism, Bergson's processism (see N's appreciation of Heraclites as the only Greek who accepted movement and duration) and even Husserl's phenomenology

Without creating a real system around them

Maybe he viewed the rigor of clear explanation and the creation of a philosophical system as freezing and killing ideas, which is what he accused classical philosophy of doing

What Nietzsche have you read?

Yikes

If you wanna have a good laugh, read *Twilight of the Idols* and *The Wagner Case*. Nobody escapes his insulting pen there

And I'd say Bergson is a great read too, the philosopher of duration

I guess the big difference is that N sees process as decadence while B sees it as positive creation

start with *Twilight of the Idols* and *Beyond Good and Evil*, they're the most accessible

or check your editions, the forewords probably have good counsel on that

then *The Antichrist*, *Genealogy of Morality* and *Ecce Homo*

then you can read *Zarathustra*, the hardest

then you have the smaller works, which can be read aside (read *The Wagner Case* and the 2nd *Untimely Meditation* with *Twilight of the Idols* on the matter of artistic decadence)

I wouldn't really trust Peterson on explaining philosophers though, he either twists their words to fit his agenda (like with Nietzsche) or says complete nonsense (like with Foucault and Derrida)

You're right

His only agenda is the way to the bank

Yikes...

I used to think so too

Is thay why he's now insisting on donations?

Check his Twitter account

He's a con man

Laughing all the way to the cheques his followers give him

He also twists words very skillfully and always returns onto semantic problems to evade issues. But I guess him being well-spoken can explain his popularity, just like all those other pseudo-intellectuals which attract TV spotlight nowadays

Such as using hourly wages to talk of overall wages. He counts on the relative ignorance of the public. It's understandable since those are the same tactics his opponents (like that idiot of a journalist on Channel 4) use.

The same kind of thing Hitchens used to do

However, what I do like about JBP is his psychoanalytical take on Biblical myths

That's interesting

He was providing serious work when he wrote *Maps of the Mind* as a student, now he's just binge publishing "how to be better at life" books for easy cash

Just like you see low-end philosophers like Michel Onfray do

like what

*12 rules for life*?

🤔

that's the best example of those cheap life counselling books

"how to be a good father", etc.

You can find dozens of those at the local train station

I'm not complaining on a personal level

I just feel like he's wasting his time

it's clear that I can't convince you and you can't convince me, and I have to take a shower before leaving soon.
let's out this off for some other time

have a nice day