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lmao, why was an ancap of all things allowed in here
not sure this includes libs lmao
@National Trotskyist I know what classical liberalism is, and that guy definitely presents himself as one (I know him from another server, to my displeasure). And of course European liberals are the center-right, they're now attracting what used to be "socialist" parties (look at the bullshittery the PS and PCF are engaging in in France).
*nazbols are the real centrists*
imagine thinking that communist society will actually take place or last for more than 15 minutes
damn ya dun troll'd dem idealists ebik style xD
obviously, you are the only educated person here
yes, Satanlin personally butchered 300 gorillion innocent Christian Russians to death :DDD
Please report to your local detention center immediately.
@ᵈˢʳ✪ nigga didn't he get shot? I'd say that's meritocratic
don't "punch" nazis like a cucked amerimutt antifa
we need to have fascists belive we are working together
I've seen a lot of quasi-marxists become natsocs
breaks my heart every time
@Maoistcentury [1997um] wtf it's just the original music
these niggera aren't singing
just replace the text with voices
like jason unruhe saying "socialism"
And calling liberalism left-wing is just you speaking as an Amerimutt.
Did I call you an ancap? lol
So what does liberalisn mean?
I was referring to @theepicone
classical liberalism and neoliberalism are left-wing huh
I'd expect nothing else from an unironic Nietzchean
forgive me for questioning your ubermensch reason and logic <:merchant:323550879749898242>
I do know, I've read most of Nietzsche. He does raise a few interesting points, but I don't see how you can take him seriously when he only throws proclamations without argumenting them at all. It's very lyrical, I'll give you that. Somewhat like the Bible stylistically.
The biggest thing of interest is probably the philological work which you can still see a bit in *Twilight of the Idols*.
For example, if you read *The Wagner Case*, while I do agree with most of his points, he never delves into musicological analysis (even though he clearly has the ability to). And even the philosophical and psychological analyses are very brief.
I'n sure he has, but the reader is left without any of Nietzche's thinking process. It really is like a religious text.
That's contrary to the way most philosophers write. A thesis needs clarity to be evaluated objectively.
I suppose he would be closer to them, since he openly defecates on the Socratic dialectic which is at the base of Western philosophy.
I do love his writing style which is very inflammatory. Calling George Sand a "milking cow".
Dante a "grave-obsessed hyena".
Well, the clearer way of writing is not really "materialistic" since it focuses on the purely intellectual process. Nietzsche claimed to be the first Western materialist (of course, this is factually false).
I'm not that familiar with Eastern philosophers since European philosophical education basically forgets their existence. Most of the books I've read by them are more practical, concerning matters of law and strategy.
I think this is from *Ramblings of an Inactual*, let me find my copy and translate the passage
well it's jot here but I think it went like this
"I am the first to have taken into account the physical body. The greatest crime of philosophy is to have discarded it by inventing faraway and metaphysical realities which have yet to be proven" (this is probably very imprecise paraphrase)
Probably an egoist, he despised all kinds of social policies
As well as the rise of authoritarian patriotism in Germany, which he viewed as a sign of degeneracy
I'd say he was a primitivist in a sense
Which would explain his dislike of how Judeo-Christian faith weakened man
Christianity was for him proto-socialism, the heavily Judaistic revenge of the oppressed against the Aryan hierarchical cult of Hinduism
In some ways, Nietzsche might have been the first to state the intuition of Sartre's existentialism, Bergson's processism (see N's appreciation of Heraclites as the only Greek who accepted movement and duration) and even Husserl's phenomenology
Without creating a real system around them
Maybe he viewed the rigor of clear explanation and the creation of a philosophical system as freezing and killing ideas, which is what he accused classical philosophy of doing
What Nietzsche have you read?
If you wanna have a good laugh, read *Twilight of the Idols* and *The Wagner Case*. Nobody escapes his insulting pen there
And I'd say Bergson is a great read too, the philosopher of duration
I guess the big difference is that N sees process as decadence while B sees it as positive creation
start with *Twilight of the Idols* and *Beyond Good and Evil*, they're the most accessible
or check your editions, the forewords probably have good counsel on that
then *The Antichrist*, *Genealogy of Morality* and *Ecce Homo*
then you can read *Zarathustra*, the hardest
then you have the smaller works, which can be read aside (read *The Wagner Case* and the 2nd *Untimely Meditation* with *Twilight of the Idols* on the matter of artistic decadence)
I wouldn't really trust Peterson on explaining philosophers though, he either twists their words to fit his agenda (like with Nietzsche) or says complete nonsense (like with Foucault and Derrida)
His only agenda is the way to the bank
Is thay why he's now insisting on donations?
Check his Twitter account
Laughing all the way to the cheques his followers give him
He also twists words very skillfully and always returns onto semantic problems to evade issues. But I guess him being well-spoken can explain his popularity, just like all those other pseudo-intellectuals which attract TV spotlight nowadays
Such as using hourly wages to talk of overall wages. He counts on the relative ignorance of the public. It's understandable since those are the same tactics his opponents (like that idiot of a journalist on Channel 4) use.
The same kind of thing Hitchens used to do
However, what I do like about JBP is his psychoanalytical take on Biblical myths
He was providing serious work when he wrote *Maps of the Mind* as a student, now he's just binge publishing "how to be better at life" books for easy cash
Just like you see low-end philosophers like Michel Onfray do
that's the best example of those cheap life counselling books
"how to be a good father", etc.
You can find dozens of those at the local train station
I'm not complaining on a personal level
I just feel like he's wasting his time
it's clear that I can't convince you and you can't convince me, and I have to take a shower before leaving soon.
let's out this off for some other time
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