Message from @DOLBATIC
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Hm?
If you wanna have a good laugh, read *Twilight of the Idols* and *The Wagner Case*. Nobody escapes his insulting pen there
And I'd say Bergson is a great read too, the philosopher of duration
I guess the big difference is that N sees process as decadence while B sees it as positive creation
I'm not looking for a laugh. But what should I start with. What order exactly?
start with *Twilight of the Idols* and *Beyond Good and Evil*, they're the most accessible
Okay
or check your editions, the forewords probably have good counsel on that
Understood.
then *The Antichrist*, *Genealogy of Morality* and *Ecce Homo*
then you can read *Zarathustra*, the hardest
Oh yeah Zarathrustra. Im going to like that book.
then you have the smaller works, which can be read aside (read *The Wagner Case* and the 2nd *Untimely Meditation* with *Twilight of the Idols* on the matter of artistic decadence)
I wouldn't really trust Peterson on explaining philosophers though, he either twists their words to fit his agenda (like with Nietzsche) or says complete nonsense (like with Foucault and Derrida)
He doesnt have an agenda
You're right
Perhaps its just his interpretation, or you havent understood his point.
His only agenda is the way to the bank
No, his only agenda is to help people.
He's not doing this for the money, that much is clear
Hm?
I used to think so too
Until?
Is thay why he's now insisting on donations?
He doesnt insist on donations.
Check his Twitter account
He's a con man
Laughing all the way to the cheques his followers give him
He's not asking for donations, he's advertising his book.
Not surprised since its to help people
aswell as trying to sell tickets to lectures to help people.
He also twists words very skillfully and always returns onto semantic problems to evade issues. But I guess him being well-spoken can explain his popularity, just like all those other pseudo-intellectuals which attract TV spotlight nowadays
Words such as?
I dont watch tv. It's boring.
Such as using hourly wages to talk of overall wages. He counts on the relative ignorance of the public. It's understandable since those are the same tactics his opponents (like that idiot of a journalist on Channel 4) use.
The same kind of thing Hitchens used to do
When did he use hourly wages to talk of overall wages?
Besides, seems pretty relative to me too.
However, what I do like about JBP is his psychoanalytical take on Biblical myths
That's interesting
He was providing serious work when he wrote *Maps of the Mind* as a student, now he's just binge publishing "how to be better at life" books for easy cash