Message from @DOLBATIC

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2018-08-18 13:31:24 UTC  

I'm not looking for a laugh. But what should I start with. What order exactly?

2018-08-18 13:32:55 UTC  

start with *Twilight of the Idols* and *Beyond Good and Evil*, they're the most accessible

2018-08-18 13:33:14 UTC  

Okay

2018-08-18 13:33:23 UTC  

or check your editions, the forewords probably have good counsel on that

2018-08-18 13:33:58 UTC  

Understood.

2018-08-18 13:34:08 UTC  

then *The Antichrist*, *Genealogy of Morality* and *Ecce Homo*

2018-08-18 13:34:28 UTC  

then you can read *Zarathustra*, the hardest

2018-08-18 13:35:14 UTC  

Oh yeah Zarathrustra. Im going to like that book.

2018-08-18 13:36:03 UTC  

then you have the smaller works, which can be read aside (read *The Wagner Case* and the 2nd *Untimely Meditation* with *Twilight of the Idols* on the matter of artistic decadence)

2018-08-18 13:37:05 UTC  

I wouldn't really trust Peterson on explaining philosophers though, he either twists their words to fit his agenda (like with Nietzsche) or says complete nonsense (like with Foucault and Derrida)

2018-08-18 13:37:21 UTC  

He doesnt have an agenda

2018-08-18 13:37:49 UTC  

You're right

2018-08-18 13:37:51 UTC  

Perhaps its just his interpretation, or you havent understood his point.

2018-08-18 13:38:00 UTC  

His only agenda is the way to the bank

2018-08-18 13:38:16 UTC  

No, his only agenda is to help people.

2018-08-18 13:38:26 UTC  

He's not doing this for the money, that much is clear

2018-08-18 13:38:47 UTC  

Yikes...

2018-08-18 13:38:55 UTC  

Hm?

2018-08-18 13:39:00 UTC  

I used to think so too

2018-08-18 13:39:09 UTC  

Until?

2018-08-18 13:39:15 UTC  

Is thay why he's now insisting on donations?

2018-08-18 13:39:26 UTC  

He doesnt insist on donations.

2018-08-18 13:39:27 UTC  

Check his Twitter account

2018-08-18 13:39:40 UTC  

He's a con man

2018-08-18 13:39:53 UTC  

Laughing all the way to the cheques his followers give him

2018-08-18 13:40:48 UTC  

He's not asking for donations, he's advertising his book.

2018-08-18 13:41:24 UTC  

Not surprised since its to help people

2018-08-18 13:41:56 UTC  

aswell as trying to sell tickets to lectures to help people.

2018-08-18 13:43:20 UTC  

He also twists words very skillfully and always returns onto semantic problems to evade issues. But I guess him being well-spoken can explain his popularity, just like all those other pseudo-intellectuals which attract TV spotlight nowadays

2018-08-18 13:43:41 UTC  

Words such as?

2018-08-18 13:44:13 UTC  

I dont watch tv. It's boring.

2018-08-18 13:45:31 UTC  

Such as using hourly wages to talk of overall wages. He counts on the relative ignorance of the public. It's understandable since those are the same tactics his opponents (like that idiot of a journalist on Channel 4) use.

2018-08-18 13:46:25 UTC  

The same kind of thing Hitchens used to do

2018-08-18 13:46:35 UTC  

When did he use hourly wages to talk of overall wages?
Besides, seems pretty relative to me too.

2018-08-18 13:47:00 UTC  

However, what I do like about JBP is his psychoanalytical take on Biblical myths

2018-08-18 13:47:09 UTC  

That's interesting

2018-08-18 13:48:00 UTC  

He was providing serious work when he wrote *Maps of the Mind* as a student, now he's just binge publishing "how to be better at life" books for easy cash

2018-08-18 13:48:31 UTC  

Just like you see low-end philosophers like Michel Onfray do

2018-08-18 13:48:53 UTC  

Or he's still providing serious work

2018-08-18 13:49:14 UTC  

like what

2018-08-18 13:49:16 UTC  

Just seems like speculation to me