hello

"Social contract" is a meaningless thing to state as your rule unless you outline what said contract actually is

Golden rule is, equally, not helpful in itself. If you do not impose some other moral code upon yourself, for instance, you would wish yourself not to be punished when you are caught doing something wrong; if you do impose said code on youself and accept the consequences, then the golden rule merely states that you should apply that to everyone else. It can't, therefore, form a moral rule of its own, it merely means that you have to apply whatever your rule is universally.

NAP is a good ethical system, and synergises well with social contract theory, but I see no great advantage to it as a moral system. It is simply too easy to think up situations where violence as a response to non-violent action seems perfectly morally acceptable, even if it must be ethically condemned.

Overall, likely to lead to a decent person who won't cause any outrages, but is a bit skeletal and would probably break down in lots of awkward moral positions.

found the link there too, although I'd heard of the project a long time before

So, you would allow the laws to dictate morality?

eh, was quite good friends with a Rothschild in school
he was incredibly smart himself, but quite open about that kinda stuff being true of the family too

The Europeans already did fuse christianity and paganism, though, and the result was pre-reformation Catholocism
Worked pretty well for a bit, then fucked itself up later
Orthodox still seem to be going strong

sounds like a terrible system with nothing to recommend it, private ownership has worked beautifully for Europeans for millenia

why?

@Marlow yes

rented land is also privately owned

that sounds like the best idea to me

yeah, the funny thing with the collective ownership being most effective thing is that it's literally always failed

missing some important word early on there, but family ownership and community collective ownership are very much the same thing

unless we're going to have a community patriarch in this model who makes the decisions for the "household"

What?

none of what you're saying matches history

there have been plenty of non-communist communities

again, non-sequitur

didn't say it was

@Orchid if you can interpret charity as "socialism"

charity is a more accurate term for it than socialism

but we get what we mean

so it doesn't matter

mmmh

yeah, kinda does

even if it's not strictly in the definitions

yeah, set up the right context and agree to keep out harmful influences and it'll go fine

now, be fair
there are enslaved goyim socialists too )))

yes

22 y/o Brit who's moved around a lot. Libertarian reactionary trending further towards the fascist and pro-white end as time goes on and the situation seems more dire. Early stages of applying for the military, have been doing youth work and other small volunteering while the bureaucracy drags its feet; interested in the project mainly as my "in case Europe needs to be evacuated" contingency, which seems increasingly likely.

Also have a brother who is actively looking for a white and right area to move to in future, with certain US areas high on the list. I'll put him in contact next time I see him, this seems like exactly it.

saying all the rich are great is dumb, saying all the rich are awful is dumb

the American rich do tend to be particularly obnoxious about it, though, in my experience

soon, with any luck

no

is it any good?

checked it out a while ago and it was all DR3 and that kinda stuff

hey, looks like they appropriated some hindu symbols in there too )))

if you're not assuming the end is at hand, the quickest way to become self reliant is to start with some degree of external support and replace it with community-based providers as you develop

as long as there is a strong enough in group preference that you will favour local producers even at a slightly greater price, you will get to autarky soon enough

that may be the case, but being mistaken and being hypocritical are different things

only question will be whether it happens on a big enough scale to get attention, though

anyone got an idea on if there are many people doing it?

on what?

wouldn't surprise me much

no, I don't think anyone thinks that

but it is a recruiting ground to be used

ja

but there are plenty of people who go step by step through these movements

they are, but their getting shit done factor is hit and miss

and they've also been drowning in leftists since the Trumpenreich was declared

ja

They've said plenty of times that they want the US and Europe to become more and more white, which is functionally the same thing, it just scares normies less

well then why did you bring up what they say?

except make whites more racially aware

which is the first stage of the battle, and a vitally important one

is anyone saying we should?

all the alt-right supporters?

I think you're taking your data from shitty newspapers

the main areas of the alt-right as personified by groups like the daily shoah and so on are completely against all three of those things

good, good

@dsp fries it don't matter once the government's fallen 👌

@Nothing he meant that gay whites who have a mental block from falling back on ethnic identitarianism fall back on their homosexual identity as a placeholder with some overlap
The disinvitations were because the previous event had turned into a complete shitshow over it

No, he's not anti-gay enough, but he is not pro-gay either

and very few of the self-identifying alt-right would call Spencer their leader, in my experience

did you not read my response?

he censored the speakers because of what they did the previous time in pretty much turning the entire conference into a shitshow

that's not being pro-gay

because he's a fairly weak, effeminate man who just banned the people who started the fight, not the ones who caused it

on everything except your stated point

which was that he wasn't a white nationalist / didn't at least espouse those views

Having incorrect tactics does not mean that you don't have your goal as your goal.
These groups aren't all just pussy Nazis - they don't all go in for retarded socialism and demotism for one.

Hey, the Nazis weren't pro white! They too adopted bad tactics in certain areas!

So, uh, what's the problem with buying somewhere which already has a building or two?

Ok.
I am virulently anti-socialist, ergo not a national socialist.
I am, however, pro-white.
Is that a problem?

yes, of course he did

the mechanics of NatSoc and Marxist socialism are wildly different

hence why the former is actually useful in some specific circumstances

he's not alt-right, he doesn't claim to be alt-right, nobody in the alt-right thinks he's alt-right

yes

do you want me to find one of the video clips?

it's been reiterated endlessly, even I know that and I can't stand watching him

also, yay blue \o/

any special significance of chocolate kinda escapes me

ok, so it's not that you're against it on principle, you just think that the lower startup cost may warrant the tent version

fair enough

yes, _all_ of the leftists do, most of the cuckservatives do, and a fair number of the alt-light do

that's a lot of people

no

I'm saying that it doesn't make him a member of a group or an adherent of an ideology that he isn't

this is true, but that comes weighed against the startup time and initial group size

not that I'm saying either side of that decision is the better one, I have pretty much no info

god damn it, ninja'd

ok, but his form is a weak version of the form of what I was describing, not the form you were describing

non-electric fire detectors?

I wouldn't

because it's the largest group, and nobody in the alt-right is MAGA right now

the last of that died with the strike on Assad

in the only alt-right that isn't the fever dream of rabid leftists

@neetkthx I know, batteries a electrical

anyway, what's the issue with electricity and plumbing w/r/t taxes?

no, what you think is the alt-right doesn't exist

dicky may well be a fed, but it still doesn't mean that this 0 population movement you imagine is a real thing