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2017-09-21 15:34:48 UTC

Gotta love this article, they literally admit that welfare is just a saftey net, but now they want more welfare because reasons

2017-09-21 16:41:59 UTC

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2017-09-21 18:15:18 UTC

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2017-09-21 18:17:12 UTC

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2017-09-21 18:19:29 UTC

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2017-09-21 18:20:09 UTC

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2017-09-21 18:21:34 UTC

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2017-09-21 18:22:11 UTC

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2017-09-21 18:33:57 UTC

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2017-09-21 23:55:28 UTC

Quick question, I know our community welcome all white religions as long as they adhere to the 14 words, but just as a quick survey, what's everyone's religious affiliation or dispostion?

2017-09-21 23:56:43 UTC

I'm a nondenominational traditionally-minded Christian, but with no (((nonsense))) attached

2017-09-21 23:59:59 UTC

Some weird unnamed mix of like eight different things, none of which should be compatible with each other.

2017-09-22 00:00:42 UTC

Im a non-denomnational christian

2017-09-22 00:01:59 UTC

i'm an atheist

2017-09-22 00:03:13 UTC

roman catholic

2017-09-22 00:03:57 UTC

kinda sad tbh i haven't met a single right wing atheist

2017-09-22 00:03:58 UTC

besides myself

2017-09-22 00:05:23 UTC

A lot of them call themselves agnostics when they come to the right, that's probably why.

2017-09-22 00:05:50 UTC

oh okay

2017-09-22 00:06:53 UTC

<- Athiest.

2017-09-22 00:07:52 UTC

Still strongly believe that christian morals are the most conducive to our survival.

2017-09-22 00:08:12 UTC

That's all you really need.

2017-09-22 00:08:25 UTC

I respect people with that outlook, Rin

2017-09-22 00:09:54 UTC

It's the only one that makes sense to me. Knowing pretty much anything about human history will get you there.

2017-09-22 00:11:27 UTC

It's things like that are the reason I never doubt I'm on the right side in all this. Just look at our (((opposition))) the kinds of people it attracts and then look at our guys.

2017-09-22 00:12:12 UTC

Not saying we're perfect, but as they say you can judge a tree by its fruit. Our guys try to better themselves constantly and fight for the betterment of their people at large.

2017-09-22 00:12:26 UTC

For me, that's enough

2017-09-22 00:15:11 UTC

Most "A"thiests that use the term as an indentity, like the youtubers and shit, they tend toward self aggrandizement and pretend that they have come upon some profound truth, they are too stupid to actually understand what is coming out of thier own mouths. The truth is that athiesm is the exact opposite, it's the lack of religious identity, not a substitute. It just means that your identity need be generated from other sources, namely your deeds and herritage.

2017-09-22 00:17:36 UTC

This. There are two kinds of atheists.

2017-09-22 00:18:13 UTC

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2017-09-22 00:18:50 UTC

kek I'm a fucking ninja!

2017-09-22 00:19:17 UTC

love that meme lol

2017-09-22 05:59:23 UTC

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2017-09-24 21:49:44 UTC

posting some oc

2017-09-24 21:49:56 UTC

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Gnostic Pagan is the short answer

2017-09-24 23:06:06 UTC

germanic paganism

2017-09-24 23:27:02 UTC

orthodox christianity

2017-09-26 13:49:25 UTC

Here's something to discuss; what do you guys think about creating a new branch of christianity that has a focus on preserving the white identity? Is such a thing feasable, or even worth pursuing?

2017-09-26 13:49:37 UTC
2017-09-26 18:50:00 UTC

@Orchid I disagree wholeheartedly, man made religions will not stand the test of time

2017-09-26 18:51:19 UTC

Something similar exists called Christian Identity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity). It's more focused on supremacy rather than preservation though.

2017-09-26 19:52:16 UTC

i recommend paganism

2017-09-26 19:52:24 UTC

not the hipster fag neo-paganism

2017-09-26 19:52:28 UTC

but like the original paganism

2017-09-26 19:52:34 UTC

basically anti-racemixing and anti-homosexuality

2017-09-26 19:52:58 UTC

What paganism are you talking about? Its a broad term

2017-09-26 19:53:04 UTC

germanic paganism

2017-09-26 19:53:21 UTC

Ok, so it talked about race and sexuality?

2017-09-26 19:54:39 UTC

yes

2017-09-26 19:54:51 UTC

from what i've seen and learned from a certain pagan discord server

2017-09-26 19:54:54 UTC

it's pretty right-wing

2017-09-26 19:55:14 UTC

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2017-09-26 19:55:49 UTC

wotan, the chief deity of germanic paganism, stands for "will of the aryan nation" in a sense

2017-09-26 19:56:51 UTC

Wow, cool

2017-09-26 19:57:03 UTC

most europeans are connected in a sense by their aryanism in a sort of unconscious that's been repressed by the christianization of europe

2017-09-26 19:57:44 UTC

should the white man rise up, i believe we'll see a revival in paganism

2017-09-26 19:57:48 UTC

Well, thats what mcNallen is selling you πŸ˜‚

2017-09-26 19:57:58 UTC

not just him

2017-09-26 19:58:03 UTC

It is true, but not in a literal sense

2017-09-26 19:58:07 UTC

obviously

2017-09-26 19:58:24 UTC

i view it more as a universal need to take back our homeland

2017-09-26 19:59:03 UTC

Hmm, Iβ€˜d say more that its our inner wotan, our will to fight and defend ourself

2017-09-26 19:59:08 UTC

mhm

2017-09-26 20:01:33 UTC

Iβ€˜ve read the Norse Legends by Neil Gaiman, but I couldn’t find a translation based on the original

2017-09-26 20:01:38 UTC

damn

2017-09-28 15:14:20 UTC

I just started looking into paganism, you ever hear of Rodnovery? Ultra nationalistic and are race realists

2017-09-28 15:15:29 UTC

I havent, where can I read more about it?

2017-09-28 16:28:57 UTC

Havent done too much digging but it seems hard to track down good books. The book of veles is their holy book, so i am going to try and find a translation into english. But for now it seems the internet is the best source

2017-09-28 17:34:49 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPOMNdvKZtQ
You dont have to agree with him on every issue, but his arguments against christianiy are good ones.

2017-09-28 18:08:15 UTC

Thats a long one, I will give it a watch after work

2017-09-28 19:28:13 UTC

this goyim, i watched that video this morning, he's on the same intellectual level as Thunderf00t except Thunderf00t actually brings relevant facts to the table. the atheistic group masturbation is petty and pathetic.

> the whole video is cherrypicking 1 christian

ok, cool.

> "scientists from a long time ago were only christian because they had to be!"

lol, nigga wut?

> "christianity blocked progress and is responsible for the slow growth of science and innovation!"

he literally says that christianitys Modus operandi is "Fight a war against progress, lose that war against progress, claim credit for that progress". so much for getting something out of this video unless you have a confirmation bias.

> 8:10-9:05

yeah, ok bud, there was absolutely no innovation or technological development between 0 and 1500 AD. sure.

the guy then proceeds to go over the whole "the supremacist theory is flawed because the oppression a certain group recieves prevents it from being equal to another group" gambit, ignoring how one group would not be able to impose its oppression over another in the first place if it was not superior in some way.

> *even more atheistic group masturbation*
> "maybe theists should have tried listening to us rather than killing us and censoring us"

i hope this guy isn't serious.

> goes over again how literally no progress was made scientifically from 0-1500 AD
> "scientific progress only began because of atheist scientists"

uh huh.

> "it was only the muslims keeping old greek knowledge that inspired the change that led to the scientific revolution while christianity delayed it"

uh huh.

> the whole "the bible aproves of slavery" autism
> "slave owning is a christian value"

just like the violence in the bible the mentioning of slavery is time specific, and its not even slavery, its indentured servitude, for no longer than 7 years. the bible does not encourage slavery.

2017-09-28 19:28:24 UTC

"the christians was oppressin us peoples of science! sheeeeeit!" every few minutes gets really tiring, really fast.

> "the 10 commandments are BTFO by the constitution!" (i will post interesting screenshot)
> "the freedom of speech, religion, press, and assembly are the opposite of christian values"
> "christianity has often enforced the opposite of our values as americans"

this guy is a vociferous dogmatic airhead who has no clue what hes talking about. 17 minutes in and the only "content" is him masturbating and crying about how mean and bad christians are and how they ruin everything.

> christians got lucky with the printing press that was invented right before the scientific revolution!
> "the invention of the printing press helped to disseminate scientific discoverys over a wide area" (paraphrasing)
> it was random chance that this happened

huh, just a coincidence i guess.

> explorers brought their found knowledge and ideas with them back to europe
> *deliberate word twisting and speculation*
> the knowledge helped contemporary greek scholars in the rise of renaiscance humanism

i see, he's misatributing the knowledge from "christians" onto future "atheists" like with the printing press.

> "it waz tha greeks tha savd uz from da ebil chriztians maaaaan! sheeeeeeit!"
> "WE WUZ ARTISTS N' SHEIT! tha chriztians had bad art n sheit!
> *dogmatic ramble about how awful christian art was*
> "the christians destroyed history because it was contrary to scripture"
> "EBIL CHRISTIANS!"
> "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! CHRISTIANS ARE EVIL N BAD N SHEEIT! REEEEEEEEE!"
> literally admits that rich christians were the only ones able to buy the art of the renaisance

ok, whatever you say shlomo. (still waiting for a real argument)

2017-09-28 19:28:27 UTC

> christian scientists were actually atheist because scientists shifted away from christianity and to atheism. they were also persecuted by le ebil christians.
> all these great scientists were part of the aristocracy so they only said those things to keep the peasants in check

uh huh.

> the bible is worthless because it contains no practical knowledge

ok.

> even *more* masturbation over how evil christians are and how great atheists are
> "christians suppress science"
> "christianity is just as bad as islam"

ok. so i wasted 40 minutes watching this and probably the same amount preparing a response. this whole video was not an argument. just some atheist masturbating over and over, i could have been on pornhub, i'm pretty sure their videos would have a better plot and been more enjoyable to watch. no real solutions, just complaints about how evil christians are and how they are not even 1% responsible for scientific development, every advancement under them was just a coincidence. you can find way better arguments against christianity based on facts instead of feelings and rhetoric, this was lazy, sad, and pathetic.

2017-09-28 19:29:35 UTC

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2017-09-28 19:30:01 UTC

> capitalism BTFO?

2017-09-28 19:30:36 UTC

> christians are supposed to force their beliefs on others

2017-09-28 19:30:45 UTC

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2017-09-28 19:31:29 UTC

You're a christian right?

2017-09-28 19:31:53 UTC

non denominational, yes. why?

2017-09-28 19:33:24 UTC

Ok

2017-09-28 19:33:56 UTC

Anyway, like I said I dont agree with all the stuff he says, but I think it is undeniable that christianity has done an immense harm to scientific progress in the years 0-1500 AD, would you agree?

2017-09-28 19:35:50 UTC

I certainly would agree, but it doesn't take away from the fact that christianity has also served as the structural latice for most of western civilization.

2017-09-28 19:35:57 UTC

no, he is misatributing and creating links that don't exist. almost completely ignoring non-religious history in europe. he did hit the nail on the head with the printing press and how it allowed the spread of knowledge.

2017-09-28 19:36:10 UTC

Which is what most of these youtube athiests conveniently gloss over.

2017-09-28 19:36:55 UTC

he also blatantly lied constantly about "muh absolutely no scientific progress for 1500 years" meme

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