Message from @Orlunu

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2017-10-26 21:11:33 UTC  

so we'd still have complete sole ownership of our own lots

2017-10-26 21:11:38 UTC  

we wouldn't be "sharing" the land

2017-10-26 21:11:54 UTC  

as for simply buying a large chunk of land and splitting it up, its certainly doable, but it depends on what you hope to accomplish with that strategy.

2017-10-26 21:11:58 UTC  

maybe have one area where we have a common park, etc.

2017-10-26 21:12:27 UTC  

i know its hard to describe, im just saying that there should be steward of the land where the vast majority of which will fall into

2017-10-26 21:12:42 UTC  

yeah it gets a little complicated

2017-10-26 21:13:01 UTC  

the strategy I like better is just going to a place that already has cheap land and decent infrastructure

2017-10-26 21:13:05 UTC  

why would that be beneficial to sole ownership?

2017-10-26 21:13:11 UTC  

and then encourage people to buy their own lots as time goes on

2017-10-26 21:13:14 UTC  

i dont see the purpose of running a community where everyone gets 10 acres instead of everyone getting 1 and basically sharing or using the 9 together

2017-10-26 21:13:24 UTC  

so we achieve a point of "saturation"

2017-10-26 21:14:03 UTC  

thats sounds like it would just create a lof of conflict

2017-10-26 21:14:34 UTC  

which is why it would be put into a trust of sorts with a steward of fiduciary duty

2017-10-26 21:14:51 UTC  

sounds like a terrible system with nothing to recommend it, private ownership has worked beautifully for Europeans for millenia

2017-10-26 21:15:09 UTC  

not saying its perfect but its better than subdividing large swaths of land into little pieces

2017-10-26 21:15:16 UTC  

@Orlunu well, it wasn't common for the average European to own land

2017-10-26 21:15:17 UTC  

why?

2017-10-26 21:15:20 UTC  

the king owned the land

2017-10-26 21:15:26 UTC  
2017-10-26 21:15:27 UTC  

and the peasants worked it

2017-10-26 21:15:47 UTC  

rented land is also privately owned

2017-10-26 21:15:52 UTC  

it could be like an HOA or covenant system

2017-10-26 21:16:09 UTC  

where we own the land, but we get together and set some standards and define use of common areas

2017-10-26 21:16:16 UTC  

like parks, etc.

2017-10-26 21:16:41 UTC  

that sounds like the best idea to me

2017-10-26 21:16:45 UTC  

or DNR land

2017-10-26 21:17:02 UTC  

I have nothing agains other people participating in that kind of system, but personally I have no interest in getting involved in something like that. I like having my own land

2017-10-26 21:17:57 UTC  

you can have your own land the issue with that is that who will produce who would want to take away fro their land to lets say build a greenhouse for everyone...who will put the community barn on their property or will you have to build a barn for everyone

2017-10-26 21:19:00 UTC  

I will have my own land, it will not be shared. Though having agreements between fellow men in the community about keeping our land looking nice, that's fine. But it will be us that keeps our land looking good.

2017-10-26 21:19:31 UTC  

@thatdudeiscool brings up a good point

2017-10-26 21:19:48 UTC  

it's better and easier if we have a few shared resources and buildings

2017-10-26 21:19:56 UTC  

so we will not have a central power station that will most cost effectively provide it will be individualized

2017-10-26 21:20:29 UTC  

In a rural community, it might just be better to set up your own individual power supply

2017-10-26 21:20:35 UTC  

how do other farmers and homesteaders do it these days?

2017-10-26 21:21:10 UTC  

what we really need is a single wealthy dude to buy up around a hundred or so acres, and then parcel out lots for people who want to buy them

2017-10-26 21:21:46 UTC  

well a farmer wont sell their tilled acreage...its the only part that generates a product so it is off limits otherwise you have no farm no matter how many descendants may take it over one day and wish to divide it

2017-10-26 21:21:47 UTC  

and then parts of the land could have communal buildings or resources

2017-10-26 21:22:07 UTC  

im sure there are normal, legal ways to purchase multiple lots from a single seller

2017-10-26 21:22:26 UTC  

yeah but isn't that functionally the same thing?

2017-10-26 21:22:56 UTC  

yeah, the funny thing with the collective ownership being most effective thing is that it's literally always failed

2017-10-26 21:23:37 UTC  

yeah it never works