the reasoning you've prevented so far (if I'm not wrong) is:
1. he's got bad tactics, therefore the movement isn't white nationalist
2. a load of delusional lefties think that Trump boys are alt-right, so they are

@Nothing no, he does those things to the people I described

the actual self-identified alt-right

no

I'm not alt-right

and even those who are don't take him as their leader

mmmmh

dubious

"Collecting rain water is illegal"
land of the free 👏

@dsp fries it or unless you're, say, part of a white sepratist movement they want to crack down on

3rd Reich were an odd kinda esoteric blend of very pro-pagan and very pro-christian

No lynching?

damn

anyway, I really wouldn't rely on not being found out as the only defence against a federal crackdown

@Nothing again, you're going with "he pursues a policy which is harmful to whites, therefore he cannot be pro-white". Will you accept the generalisation of this which means that anyone who pursues a policy which is harmful to the white race is necessarily not pro-white?

@Nothing being your nominal leader does not give him control over the people

@Nothing alright, and now I'm saying that I'm the leader

that puts me one for one against ol' Dicky

Isn't that what I've just been doing in this conversation?

anywho, back to the point
you're refuting someone's aim with the results of their action, which is retarded

What?

I said to comply with the regulations so they don't have an excuse to kick the doors in

what the fuck did you take away from that?

that I wanted a shootout with them?

@chris#0919 the SS were told to celebrate pagan holidays, swear allegiance to the Christian god, and got educated in all kinds of wierd shit
it never fitted together cohesively and I don't think they ever intended for it to

yeah, and they also had the systematic integration of the protestant church into the Nazi party structure

as I said, it wasn't cohesive

@Nothing you're fucking retarded
the difference is that one you're doing knowingly and one you're doing out of ignorance

I say again: Hitler was anti-white because he failed

yes, which is consistent with protestantism

I won't deny that the Nazis and Catholics were very much at odds

k

ja

and it's been pretty well established that the early Tarim cultures you mentioned were Saka/Scythians

pretty much a stage before the Persians, slightly further north

The Nazis were far from perfect, but all right

and, by all accounts, when up to their eyeballs on meth the soldiers were 👌

@Nothing No, Hitler was saying "Hey man, you know what would really save the white race? [Insert WW2 plans]."
Both objectively wrong.

@Nothing in control in what way?

which allows him to control the people how?

So, the movement doesn't stand for their common goals and defining features, it stands for how effective or not their leader is?

@Ammianus Marcellinus Not indo-europeans?
Dude, Scythians were pretty much as indo-european as it got.

Proto-Iranians from the Caucasus

pretty much

np, probably didn't state it very well

don't keep any sources to hand, will look for some later

wouldn't be surprised if you could find it on wiki, tbh, it's not something (((they))) would see much point in removing

@Orchid yes, you should get your info on the group from verified journos on twitter, not the most influential thought-leaders within the group

yes, he coined the contraction and was the first big public figure

he's the best known and the one they can associate that way

that's it

the alt-right haven't effected any policy change yet
what they _have_ done is turn large numbers of people pro-white, which is more than any other contemporary US group

sure, they aren't the most effective group in the world, but they're the most effective group over there

@Nothing what?

fucking reread my post, then kys

I honestly don't believe you're arguing in good faith right now

bad faith

Me: The alt-right isn't as effective as some groups, but it's the best contemporary group in its location
You: OH WELL IF THE ALT-RIGHT IS FUCKING PERFECT THEN WHY TRY ANYTHING ELSE?!

nite

wew

I'm pretty sure that by the end of it he wasn't trying to reason about it

Episcopal Churces are the ones where they have gay marriages overseen by tranny abortion advocate priests, right?

would a contract to pool money for the large purchase and then sub-divide it in a pre-agreed manner not be the best of both worlds?

i.e. buy the land as a bloc with each person already having a defined portion

most likely

depending on area, though, that could also be part of the same system

so an initial high-area buy by a group followed by selling on sub-portions when it's further developed

the only problem that that would introduce is if you have too few people/little money for a large enough initial setup

and, tbh, I don't have a clue about that

@Belisarius mmh, some of Nietzsche's take on it can be a bit of an argument in favour of paganism
there's the whole ancestral wisdom thang
uh, there's some areas in which it is mutually reinforcing with nationalist sentiment...#

but, mostly, it's people who say no to christianity and just switch to paganism to default

it's easier for a Norwegian to go "Eh, I'm not going Christian, so I'll identify with the old Norwegian faith" than to go "Eh, I'm not going Christian, so I'll become a Zoroastrian"

but muh slitty eyes

clearly 100% mongoloid

if it's pre-arranged properly, it doesn't really matter if some people want more or less
everyone can just pay into the pot for their portion and get their portion out at the end

and, yes, I think that the biggest issue is the inital setup, which should seek to be as large an area as viable

and that can easily be further sold in sub-divisions as you progress, with a lot of growth room with minimum reliance on buying neighbouring land

Generation Zyklon is a real thing

well, at least it is this side of the pond, I'd imagine it is in the US too

As I said, it's not so much that it has a pull of its own other than what I mentioned, it's just a default fallback for those who don't want to into Christianity, which may be for a whole load of different reasons.

mmmh, I could come in now but I'm afraid I wouldn't be willing to make the move until at least my first term in the military is over, unless something drastic changes

Would be willing to chip in an amount as a setup investment now and rent it out until then, though, if it actually looks like a major purchase is about to happen.

Right, how's about we canvass now? Ask everyone here what they'd be willing to put down in the immediate future if that purchase looked imminent.

Get an idea of what we're working with

@Roman Dreams yeah, a lot will
some will still donate
free extra income for the project

oy vey

shut it down

yeah

I assume it's a defensiveness thing

it is deeply unhelpful, whatever the reason

I managed to get off pol a while ago in the midst of the lefty invasion

feels good mang

Varg?
Innawoods beardy natsoc pagan

iirc

mmmh, you'll get some income from the people who will financially support any viable pro-white movement they see, but possibly not much and it'd require a lot of exposure

the other problem is that a small starting setup may be hard to expand

@dsp fries it which would lead to money turning up later, but not for the start, and it's unreliable to guess how much

this is what I was saying about the advantage of buying an area with a degree of development already in place, or buying and paying for a build
sure, it's more expensive, but it means that you can go there and carry on with your life, you don't have to spend that subsidised time setting everything up

night

Catalonian "nationalists" are anarcho-syndicalist scum who only want independence because they hate the monarchy and Franco's legacy