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2017-09-21 18:14:29 UTC

That is impossible in the modern day. Soy is used as a protien additive in animal feed and human food.

2017-09-21 18:15:50 UTC

@Rin how would you explain the rise in gay and trans people other than an incease in soy in people's diets and ((them))?

2017-09-21 18:16:17 UTC

Simple, It's become popular.

2017-09-21 18:16:45 UTC

Cultural marxism

2017-09-21 18:16:52 UTC

If you think eating something other than a dick is gonna make you gay, I don't know what to tell you.

2017-09-21 18:17:10 UTC

kek

2017-09-21 18:17:44 UTC

Your digestive tract has literal acid in it.

2017-09-21 18:18:42 UTC

And all sorts of digestive enzymes that destroy complex molecules like estrogen.

2017-09-21 18:19:37 UTC

So estrogen can't be absorbed by the body through food?

2017-09-21 18:20:05 UTC

I'm not going to say absolutely no, but I find it highly unlikely.

2017-09-21 18:20:17 UTC

Certainly not in any significat amount.

2017-09-21 18:21:04 UTC

Not from normal foods.

2017-09-21 18:21:19 UTC

Pharmaceutical estrogen pills maybe.

2017-09-21 18:21:38 UTC

Men have always been gay. You can see evidence in every culture. However, they were always a tiny portion of the population. Now we have an unprecidented increase in gays that corrolates with a diet higher in soy. >inb4 correlation doesn't equal causation. Just look at food lables and tell me how many of them contain either soy meal or soybean oil. Then add the fact that most livestock feed is supplimented with soybeans for protien.

2017-09-21 18:21:57 UTC

But....

2017-09-21 18:22:10 UTC

Correlation doesn't equal causation....kek

2017-09-21 18:22:49 UTC

Also, bottom line is that behavior used to be private, not celebrated and publically faulted in grotesque parades

2017-09-21 18:22:59 UTC

Cultural marxism is just a better explanation all around.

2017-09-21 18:23:46 UTC

Also, most of these "gays" nowdays grow out of it.

2017-09-21 18:24:04 UTC

Which shows that it's more of a trend than a biological fact.

2017-09-21 18:25:18 UTC

Are there really more gays today? What percentage did it used to be, and what is it now?

2017-09-21 18:25:27 UTC

I don't see any evidence that it is inherently biological at all unless you consider effeminate physical characteristics as a reinforcer for the behavior. I really do believe it's a mental disorder.

2017-09-21 18:25:52 UTC

I doubt it Orchid, they are being over reported now, and before they were severely uinderreported.

2017-09-21 18:26:27 UTC

Also it's been made out to be "trendy"

2017-09-21 18:26:32 UTC

i have no reason to believe more people are gay today either

2017-09-21 18:26:43 UTC

Up until recently most gays would never self report themselves as gay.

2017-09-21 18:26:56 UTC

That in itself explains the rise.

2017-09-21 18:27:25 UTC

Add cultural marxism to that pot, and you get a recipe for modern day.

2017-09-21 18:27:56 UTC

I agree. However science has proven that women who eat foods high in plant estrogen have a higher risk of cancer due to hormone imbalances.

2017-09-21 18:29:26 UTC

So on that note does home-grown, organic produce nullify this?

2017-09-21 18:29:49 UTC

Hormones cant be delivered orally I think. The pharmecutical pill arent hormones, they block the inhibitors in your body that keep your own hormones in check.

2017-09-21 18:30:10 UTC

If you want to intake hormones, it has to be done via injection.

2017-09-21 18:31:43 UTC

Besides is thewre even any evidence that "plant estrogen" even has any effect on humans?

2017-09-21 18:32:18 UTC

Even if it could survive digestion?

2017-09-21 18:32:40 UTC

no, estrogen is a naturally occuring hormone. Some plants like soy make a lot whereas others like corn don't. My point is that soy consumption increases estrogen in both men and women. http://www.pcrm.org/health/cancer-resources/ask/ask-the-expert-soy

2017-09-21 18:33:39 UTC

lol did you read that before posting it?

2017-09-21 18:33:49 UTC

"Plant estrogens do not eliminate all of estrogen's effects, but they do minimize them, apparently reducing breast cancer risk and menstrual symptoms."

2017-09-21 18:34:01 UTC

They do the exact opposite of what you are saying.

2017-09-21 18:34:44 UTC

Right, it affects women hormonally but not men for some reason.

2017-09-21 18:34:46 UTC

"For men and boys, the phytoestrogens in soy do not appear to have any effect on hormone levels and have not been shown to affect sexual development or fertility. Research studies show that men consuming soy have less prostate cancer and better prostate cancer survival."

2017-09-21 18:36:06 UTC

I wonder what that reason might be?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/359543739393245193/360494417313792001/2Q.png

2017-09-21 18:36:25 UTC

So at very most, it may make some women a bit more manly, that is if they managed to eat enough of it. And even that seems far fetched.

2017-09-21 18:37:27 UTC

There are so many things that have much more drastic effects on your body and hormone levels that people do everyday.

2017-09-21 18:37:37 UTC

Smoking for example.

2017-09-21 18:38:11 UTC

It effects hormone levels in a meaningful way for women, so I don't eat it even though I'm a man.

2017-09-21 18:38:20 UTC

Or even just being in a relationship, changes your hormone levels.

2017-09-21 18:38:31 UTC

But it doesn't.

2017-09-21 18:38:53 UTC

Show me a study where they made women eat soy everyday and thier breasts shrink.

2017-09-21 18:39:10 UTC

Or they start liking women. Or start lactating.

2017-09-21 18:39:37 UTC

"Plant estrogens do not eliminate all of estrogen's effects, but they do minimize them, apparently reducing breast cancer risk and menstrual symptoms." you just quoted it affecting women who consume it.

2017-09-21 18:39:56 UTC

Yeah, but those aren't meaningful ways.

2017-09-21 18:40:20 UTC

Meaningful negative ways at least.

2017-09-21 18:40:32 UTC

If anything, they are just healthy.

2017-09-21 18:40:49 UTC

I think we're gonna have to agree to disaggree on this point.

2017-09-21 18:40:58 UTC

You do know that men have estrogen too right?

2017-09-21 18:41:51 UTC

yes, both are made from cholesterol. they both serve a purpose in regulating our body.

2017-09-21 18:42:30 UTC

Think about this, Soy comes from and is primarily consumed in the east, they probably have the lowest gay population in the world.

2017-09-21 18:42:41 UTC

Explain that.

2017-09-21 18:43:06 UTC

Japan in particular.

2017-09-21 18:43:41 UTC

It's just become a fad in the west recently, withing= the last 15 years or so.

2017-09-21 18:43:50 UTC

*within

2017-09-21 18:44:26 UTC

MAybe it explains the little dicks. πŸ˜„

2017-09-21 18:45:02 UTC

No, that wouldn't be right.... It blocks estrogen, so it would make dicks bigger if anything.

2017-09-21 18:48:15 UTC

Maybe it explains all the boipussy in Thailand. kek

2017-09-21 18:48:58 UTC

Seems a bit too localized though.

2017-09-21 18:51:56 UTC

it has to do with how they consume it. They ferment it to remove/nulify the effects that soy enzymes and protien have on their diet. In the US we don't properly process the soy to remove the harmful parts. Most cooking oil contains soybean oil that is just squeezed out of the bean without processing it. https://www.johnleemd.com/about-soy-foods.html

2017-09-21 18:54:25 UTC

Once again, did you read that? It says that the phytoestrogens are helpful, and that the ligins are what needs to be blocked, and that is done by incorporating seaweed into the diet.

2017-09-21 18:54:53 UTC

If anything then, they encourage the phytoestrogens.

2017-09-21 18:55:35 UTC

do you eat seaweed? I only eat it in sushi, soybean oil is a daily occurance.

2017-09-21 18:56:10 UTC

But the ligins are not the same as phytoestrogens.

2017-09-21 18:57:50 UTC

The lignins only block nutrient absorbtion, it has fuckall to do with estrogen or estrogen receptors.

2017-09-21 18:58:31 UTC

Also, if you are so worried about this, why are you drinking Soy everyday? kek

2017-09-21 18:59:09 UTC

Have you ever had the urge to have a dick in your hand after a glass?

2017-09-21 18:59:30 UTC

Or in your ass?

2017-09-21 18:59:55 UTC

The oil is in eveything. That is my concern.

2017-09-21 19:01:50 UTC

Sorry bro, it's a nothing burger. Even a cursory glance at the science tells you so. Easterners do things to soy that encourage the phytoestrogens, not inhibit them. So it would stand to reason that if it made you gay, they would have a much higher percentage of gays.

2017-09-21 19:02:43 UTC

Also, the relative amounts you are talking about here (soy oil additives) are so low that even if they had an effect, it would hardly be measurable.

2017-09-21 19:03:31 UTC

It's the same as mercury in vaccines, people who don't understand science see it and freak out without any frame of reference for the quantities being used.

2017-09-21 19:04:17 UTC

To the point where vaccine makers had to replace the mercury with something else totally unnecesarily.

2017-09-21 19:04:35 UTC

Which is probably more harmful. kek

2017-09-22 00:38:44 UTC

For all you gaming faggots

2017-09-22 00:38:50 UTC

You can get Outlast for free

2017-09-22 00:38:55 UTC

Only for a day though

2017-09-23 00:35:01 UTC

How do you all feel about tattoos? Will degenerates like me who have one or two be shunned? lol

2017-09-23 00:35:47 UTC

i think the kind of tattoo you have is important to consider

2017-09-23 00:36:15 UTC

It's a Teutonic cross

2017-09-23 00:36:41 UTC

Got it in my military days

2017-09-23 03:14:59 UTC

Anyone got a S8 Note?

2017-09-23 03:28:02 UTC

Err Note 8.

2017-09-23 12:26:08 UTC

I have a tattoo, might get another πŸ˜„

2017-09-24 00:46:34 UTC

@K_Wagner which branch?

2017-09-24 00:47:09 UTC

USAF

2017-09-24 00:48:53 UTC

cool

2017-09-24 00:51:38 UTC

nah

2017-09-24 00:51:44 UTC

army is "cool"

2017-09-24 00:51:53 UTC

AF is.. "neat"

2017-09-24 00:51:55 UTC

lol

2017-09-24 00:52:00 UTC

neat

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