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@[SLG]Chairman Sqeek my condolences.
Whys that? xD
@[SLG]Chairman Sqeek After we get more people we will look for locals in states/cities. We will find you local comrades.
I think having a contact with locals is important.
I am a Democratic Soc
"meet hot red's near you"
geg
I'm an Agrarian Socialist
ohhhh
y tho??
Hmm?
why are you an agrarian soc??
Its the form of communism I can most agree with. need to clarify its authoritarian agrarian socialism though, im not for decentralization.
Just think an agrarian way of life is better. I've lived in a big city and a small town, small town all the way. Helps that Alabama still has a lot of farming as its economic basis
plus its traditional and conservative, which I am.
oh I can agree
I mean we are rice farmers
my fam has some land
and we farm it
i fux with that
plus i am asian
we literally rice farmers
I took farming in high school, was fun and pretty simple.
top kek
yeah i k what you sayin
what country you from?
hi
Its 3am here
http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/134025266 gimme a bump
lol pablo escobar is the main meme man
@Deleted User gave you a bump.
Agrarianism was indeed a healthier life but we cannot go back. Progress or die, now.
"english"
How can Anarchist territory exist in the world without 1) preparing human nature for it or 2) defeating the global capitalist threat who will crush it? A strong Socialist state is needed to address both these points.
This ๐๐ผ๐๐ผ
https://discord.gg/ZCvCW3 M-L specific server. Actually anyone except leftcoms, ultras and trots can join and anarchists can join too if they want
ancoms*
I started out as AnCom thanks to Kropotkin with Marxist sympathies (I really like both of their bodies of work). A few months ago, Muke engaged me in conversation and convinced me to go through State and Revolution...
If we want a revolution that is maintained, we need a strong socialist state. Period. Lenin makes good on Kropotkin's weak points in his theory. As Chopin said, humans have to be ready for it.
Actually how Chopin said it was better period. We have to prepare human nature for it. Going full AnCom can work with a small commune... but a larger society requires human nature to be adjusted for it.
It isn't a natural jump from people that have had to live in a world devoured, exploited and controlled by a predatory market. My Hegel is a little weak, but it just does not flow naturally, analytically speaking.
We *need* a strong socialist state to advocate for and defend our fellow Proletarians from the blood hungry Capitalist warmachine. A centralized power that can both arm and organize the people's defense forces is paramount to defend the new Socialist state and the Proletariat.
A centralized power will also make the accounting and distribution of goods both significantly easier and efficient. Otherwise we risk famines and the outbreak of otherwise preventable illnesses during and after the transition period.
tl;dr: There is no lasting revolution without a state.
If my understanding is off, please correct me. I'm relatively new to more centralized ML theory. Thank you.
this pretty accurately describes the few discussions I've had about the topic itself
any atheist here?
There are plenty
Plenty.
@Deleted User If the conclusions I've drawn from the revolution here in the US is any indication, one of the factors that lead to a succesful revolution here in America, as opposed to France was that the institutions put in place already existed in the form of the colonial charters and had existed for a century or more at the time of the revolution. The people who managed and fought the war for independence had already been living and acting semi-independent of the UK in the mode of government they would adopt after 1776 and revise and strengthen in the 1780's. As one scholar put it - I really need to find and read that book, "On Revolution" - the Patriots had the sewing part down as much as they did the cutting.
So it appears to me, as @Cyrinika said there'll need be some sort of foundation down in somewhere like the states where a majority of the population - or enough of it - lives by certain Socialist or Communist standards. Even AnCom'ing a few small towns would be as nice as at least AnMutualising larger ones even, or even finding ways on certain levels of society to reorganize local politics.
It's kind of like stealing the GOP's grand strategy for the passed thirty or more years: take office seats at the lowest possible levels of government and build your agenda from there if not raise career politicians from that seat.
I don't really care who it's carried out by. At this point the disenfranchising element on the left is the sectarian nature of it fueled by high-minded theory.
The guy at the mechanics shop isn't going to wrap his head around surplus value or dialectics. But he can wrap his head around possibly organizing things with the five other guys there to better split the profits if it means higher over-all pay for the same amount of work.
Or even just a sense of ownership even.
This will work.
It has promise. I mean, I doubt the entire Red Guard was read up on Kapital. But they all knew they were getting screwed over and wanted better for theselves and their countryโโif not the world. Being loud and disseminating ideas are important. In America, you have to change your dialogue a little bit due to the Mc Carthyism BS to appeal to everyone (not that we have to) just so that the message can be heard. Richard Wolff has a lot of really great videos that use 'relatable' terms. Employee instead of Proletariat and the like. For introducing more of us to our theory, approachability is important.
That being said, I'm a fan of the established dialogue and jargon, so I usually use it once I get a feeling that a person won't be alienated by it. Dialetical methods are very useful for spreading the ideology on a personal level.
my ๐ ฑ fam xd @Firefly
I saw you advertising this server once.
Advertising is good, it spreads the discussion.
AHAHAHAHHAHAAHA
THEY FELL FOR IT
Lol
This appears relevant.
New Shitpost
hi
Hello~
Hi!
Ello, @Deleted User
yesss
Welcome. Where you been?
4pm here
Nice chatting with you guys gtg
<:talk:312053622617669633>
John McCain just got brain cancer
ogod, that meme.
Bonus irony points for that HN,
@Deleted User y'all mind if I steal that there meme?
No
@Deleted User Steal it you fucking thief.
I don't have one
Whatever you liar. ๐ญ
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Ephemeral Rift is amazing
we need more commie bedtime stories
We need orgasmic fiestas of colossal proportions the likes of which the world has never before seen.
I'm talking about hot and sweaty orgies every weekend where the wine and bodily fluids flow like the waters of the Euphrates.
Now that is some direct action I can get behind, ya'me?
))))
Your discord was the first leftist discord I found.
yeah
i am Che
Since im che
wanna give me some assistance
I still don't get it. Are you a boy or a girl. Some people told me you are a boy.
What can I do for you?
im a girl
go in vc in the server i just sent
and actually speak
whart
no
Ok
i just want you to use your voice in a voice chat kek
that what theyre for
I'm sort of shy and anonymous. I was in paltalk voice chat for couple of years before back in the day when it was the first voice chat. But now I'm retired into alphabet world.
but like
you can be anonymous while talking still
Not if you know everybody.
your voice isnt gonna tell me shit
Not to you.
what
It becomes complicated when you know many people on the left.
Especially when it is easy to record and stuff.
Unnecessary for me.
In remembrance of Bat'ko's channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-3NX-Vykb0
stalin
filthy commies
Have a medal.
thx boi
It's made from plastic. Metal is too dangerous for the mentally disabled.
you know that communism is a jewish invention right?
anyway
Did you know that gunpowder is a chinese invention right?
@UberMรผn#7071 Did you know that satellite is a Russian invention right?
Naw, no more plaything.
wow. How insightful he was.
lmaoooooooo kekistan
shaliday my fellow reddidors xddd
Hope whoever started that dies
Reading material for people interested in communism?
@Deleted User in the future. Maybe with 2k people is already good?
Huh?
Oh! Thank you
I thought you are asking if we are reading material.
I think is a good idea in the future.
To have someone on twitch reading stuff.
Reading stuff on VC is done on other servers
Could be cool here
I'd do it if I were more mentally sharp
Tiocfaidh รกr lรก
My favourite meme
That is a rare Pepe, indeed.
why are there fucking bourgeois liberals on the leftypol discord, this is nazbol only gtfo
Reeeeeeeee
>free speech
>kicks/bans my speech
what a bunch of niggers
I got a new server to shitpost in becase of it
so gu
gud
Freeze peach
That place is gay
We are MLs but we accept most everyone.
@Deleted User >Most everyone
What is the boundry?
>when you and your wingman rock up to the party wearing the same thing
@Deleted User It's a leftist safe space, don't go there unless you like autistic screeching.
*he says on another leftist server*
@Deleted User Meh, can't be worse than here, after a while they don't actively ridicule you for your beliefs and will start debating with you.
@Dangerlurking#8195 Basically if you're fascist you get quarantined in a special chat. Otherwise you'll be fine.
I'm guessing they're loose with the definition of fascist
Fascist as in anyone that deviates from my opinion
192 people and completely dead ๐คฃ
you people are worse than gays
yeh people rather use other discords
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๐ฌ ๐ท ๐ช ๐ฆ ๐น โก ๐ฆ ๐ฑ ๐ฑ ๐พ
@calamity#5834
what if some of use *are* gays?
though we can't be worse than weebs
oh ะe's gone
pee pee
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just a reminder that you guys are literally the biggest crybabies on the internet
just a reminder that you guys are literally the biggest crybabies on the internet.
just a reminder that you guys are literally the biggest crybabies on the internet..
just a reminder that you guys are literally the biggest crybabies on the internet....
<:dynoSuccess:314691591484866560> ***Vypr#9620 has been warned.***
YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH
itt butthurt fascists
how's murdoch murdoch doing?
Hitler was a hero
yes he was
the greatest hero
Lol he went to Argentina
You're just indoctrinated with Zionist propoganda
hitler was living
>when you nazis literally support Israel but I'm the one indoctrinated by zionist propaganda
Lol nobody in the alt right supports Israel u idiot
Shows how much you understand your opposition
look at him go!
Trump cucks on the Jewish question, nothing new
truely rebels against the jewish establishment
Mainstream right is still controlled by baby boomers who love muh Israel
you people literally do everything in israel's favor
and pretend to hate it
it is genuine cognitive dissonance
Who are you referring to?
The alt right doesn't have a voice in national politics
you didn't vote Trump?
Of course
But trumps not a fascistv
The real fascists obviously want to gas israel
why would I care what Trump is? he is Israel's dog
that's all that matters
So why don't you join the fascist movement? Instead of wasting away with punk rejects here
We can weaponize barrons autism
To Nuke Israel
At the beginning of the campaign and presidential race most of us loved him but now that he is in office we see that he is just another puppet
no you won't
you say you will
all you do is do things that the jews want you to do
Bad troll
Bad
I agree with him.
remember net neutrality?
Nationalist gave all power to Zion in Ukraine as well.
well, the kikes were against it
Trump could be playing 4d chess when it comes to the Jews
it seems /pol/'s political choices always align with israel and jews
Surely Putin is woke to the JQ.
/pol/ is a joke
Mossad was first to use anonymous networks for propaganda.
That is why we have /pol now.
not really
Russia needs a proper dictator again
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