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Now we know why so many of them were rekt

Are fascists tolerated here

Yoinks!

Excellent. The Bolsheviks are turning against each other.

My plan is coming to fruition.

Was a joke to accentuate my position as a NatSoc.

They call every communist a Bolshevik.

I'm a centrist. I'm just looking for educated people to debate with.

my 🅱 fam xd @Firefly

I saw you advertising this server once.

I believe in either Uncensored Politics or a British politics server.

They banned me for trolling, even though I was doing the same thing the NatSocs were doing just the opposite.

Was saying Jews were the master race by virtue of natural selection, which is why they control the world government.

Mod on duty was a NatSoc, and was ignoring equal veracity shitposting that the NatSocs were saying.

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Pretty shitty server infested with shitposting fascists.

Ignore I have Goering as my pfp

You wouldn't notice unless you really looked at it.

Plus it was from when he was a bit younger than the more iconic pictures you usually see.

Nah, a little bit later. Interwar period.

Maybe late 20's, I can't be sure.

Was feeling a little low-effort because I was on mobile.

I type at 105 wpm, but text at about 50 with a bunch of typos. Not willing enough to engage in sustained serious posting.

100% shitposting baby

Propaganda is inherently untruthful and misleading.

That's an arbitrary comparison to make.

A right-wing idealist might say right-wing propaganda is "supposed" to be the truth.

In practice, neither right-wing or left-wing propahanda is the truth because all propaganda is untruthful.

It's in the primary definition.

Can you define that for me? I am not educated in communist rhetoric.

Why would you have to use propaganda to educate people? Sounds to me like a convenient substitute for school that uses its legitimacy to quickly switch between a platform for education and a loudspeaker for party lies.

Himmler was a clown.

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I've seen that chart before. It is debunked by both historians and records directly from the Soviet government as well as having an obscure journalist as the first citation and an irrelevant unused one as the second. @Deleted User

95% goes beyond any reason. Connecting thumbtacks with yarn-level paranoia.

That fails to address the other two points?

That it has shitty unverified sources and that it has also been debunked by historians as a canard.

I've seen that chart before. It is debunked by both historians and records directly from the Soviet government as well as having an obscure journalist as the first citation and an irrelevant unused one as the second.

1) The Soviet government disagrees.
2) Credible historians disagree.
3) The citations are shit.

That's 1 for 3. Congratulations.

Then why is the contrary somehow true?

Yes, I am the one spouting hot air.

I'm not a communist?

Excellent ad hominem by the way.

Got it.

More non-ad hominem from the genius.

You are just digging a deeper hole for yourself and shitposting.

This server really needs a shitposting channel.

Still not a communist or even a lefty.

You are also on a lefty Discord.

Guess you're a retarded lefty nigger.

lol when the retarded lefty nigger doubles down after being incorrect Xd

I am not putting words in your mouth. 😃

Because you said it in a way that made it applicable to both of us.

So I was not incorrect in saying it.

Got it.

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So you're NOT a lefty?

I have Goebbels as my pfp and have repeatedly denied being a communist. If you are still desperately holding on to the "presumption" that I'm a "lefty retard nigger" then you are doing so purely because that is what you wish to believe.

Simply because I disagree with you.

😌 when ur still bad at shitposting

What leftist ideals have I defended? Respect for honest fact-collecting and reliable sources? That's not a leftist ideal.

That's just good research.

The first citation from that graph is from an obscure journalist with no scholarly credentials. The secondary source is reliable, and from a Yale professor, but unfortunately from a book detailing the similarities between Stalin and Hitler's regimes. The 95% statistic comes from the obscure journalist.

Honestly the Yale citation is just there to make it look legitimate.

The chart is a sham.

Having no credentials and being used a primary citation is grounds for questioning the legitimacy of a statistic that is by a factor of 19 larger than records directly from the Soviet government, no ad hom.

And @Firefly right-wingers can be educated. There are plenty of educated people from all parts of the political spectrum.

I have met loads of Nazis who defend their positions in very educated manners.

Ukraine was a shithole when it was owned by communists.

One of the most developed regions maybe, but still a shithole.

Soviet communism is perhaps the largest failure of any economic system in recent history.

Ask any former Soviet citizen.

I have never met anyone who lived in the USSR or any Eastern Bloc country particularly who advocated for Soviet communism.

It was exploitative at all levels except for the highest echelons of what can only be described as an aristocracy.

Nothing got done without bribes, even the most basic goods were shoddy or in short supply, and political repression and censorship were widespread at every point in Soviet history except towards the end.

So that makes communism okay somehow?

If you put America through 80 years of communism and then suddenly made it switch to capitalism it'd be a shithole too.

Thank 80 years of communism.

You say free rent and electricity implying there was always working electricity.

It's free for a reason. Handouts don't exist in the real world.

Nobody works for the benefit of others. That's where the Soviet system collapses.

You would be hard pressed to find a well off Soviet politician who didn't get there by stepping on others.

Nationalism and communism are not opposites, or even in the same league.

80 years of communism.

You can't just tell a country to switch to capitalism and expect everything to work out, especially when Ukraine was a part of the USSR and economically dependent on other Soviet republics.

Why do you use nationalism as an opposite to communism?

Ukraine was closely tied to the Russian economy because it was the breadbasket of the USSR.

It was naturally more dependent. When you take it away and make it its own country, it doesn't work out.

I never said there was no economy. I said there was a shitty economy.

A shitty economy closely tied to Russia.

I JUST explained this.

Ukraine was closely tied to the Russian economy because it was the breadbasket of the USSR.
It was naturally more dependent. When you take it away and make it its own country, it doesn't work out.

Just like with the dissolution of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. All of the states that resulted from that experienced some form of turmoil, nationalism, economic crisis, or any combination of those three.

Do you even know what nationalism is? You continue to use it as if it's the opposite of communism.

Nationalism: Extreme love for one's country.
Communism: An economic policy.

Ukrainian nationalism is just a symptom of the larger problem that a breakup of a large state brings, just as in Austria-Hungary.