Message from @Danov

2017-07-18 09:48:23 UTC

Plenty.

2017-07-18 10:21:09 UTC

@Deleted User If the conclusions I've drawn from the revolution here in the US is any indication, one of the factors that lead to a succesful revolution here in America, as opposed to France was that the institutions put in place already existed in the form of the colonial charters and had existed for a century or more at the time of the revolution. The people who managed and fought the war for independence had already been living and acting semi-independent of the UK in the mode of government they would adopt after 1776 and revise and strengthen in the 1780's. As one scholar put it - I really need to find and read that book, "On Revolution" - the Patriots had the sewing part down as much as they did the cutting.

AaronMk

2017-07-18 10:22:53 UTC

So it appears to me, as @Cyrinika said there'll need be some sort of foundation down in somewhere like the states where a majority of the population - or enough of it - lives by certain Socialist or Communist standards. Even AnCom'ing a few small towns would be as nice as at least AnMutualising larger ones even, or even finding ways on certain levels of society to reorganize local politics.

AaronMk

2017-07-18 10:23:47 UTC

It's kind of like stealing the GOP's grand strategy for the passed thirty or more years: take office seats at the lowest possible levels of government and build your agenda from there if not raise career politicians from that seat.

AaronMk

2017-07-18 10:24:31 UTC

I don't really care who it's carried out by. At this point the disenfranchising element on the left is the sectarian nature of it fueled by high-minded theory.

AaronMk

2017-07-18 10:25:32 UTC

The guy at the mechanics shop isn't going to wrap his head around surplus value or dialectics. But he can wrap his head around possibly organizing things with the five other guys there to better split the profits if it means higher over-all pay for the same amount of work.

AaronMk

2017-07-18 10:25:51 UTC

Or even just a sense of ownership even.

Deleted User

2017-07-18 10:30:35 UTC

This will work.

Cyrinika

2017-07-18 10:51:24 UTC

It has promise. I mean, I doubt the entire Red Guard was read up on Kapital. But they all knew they were getting screwed over and wanted better for theselves and their country––if not the world. Being loud and disseminating ideas are important. In America, you have to change your dialogue a little bit due to the Mc Carthyism BS to appeal to everyone (not that we have to) just so that the message can be heard. Richard Wolff has a lot of really great videos that use 'relatable' terms. Employee instead of Proletariat and the like. For introducing more of us to our theory, approachability is important.

That being said, I'm a fan of the established dialogue and jargon, so I usually use it once I get a feeling that a person won't be alienated by it. Dialetical methods are very useful for spreading the ideology on a personal level.