lol nazis are socialist

>when you’re a Jew
>when you’re not a national socialist

ok but what do you believe

>when your name and pfp are literally in Hebrew

i cant read hebrew

im an american

it says mossad

Doesn’t look very German does it

it looks assyrian

I’m a Classical Fascist/Imperialist

commie*

oh so you want israel to become an empire

No?

but you said your an imperialist

so shouldnt you want your country to become an empire

Yes..

hell yeah make israel an empire

My country isn’t Israel lol

where are you from

1967 here we go

Canada lmao

lmao

the canadian empire lol

No I want a Roman Empire lol

"people kind"

That’s gay^

your gay

youre so cucked

How? I hate the current government lol

your prime minister is a total fucking faggot thats how

Yes he is

canada is a meme

True

Death to the great satan

@צבא ההגנה לישראל come to israel

I will for my Aliyah

aliyah?

Anyone @here that is right? or left centrist?

@jMan im an american nationalist

Obviously

america is gay

im anti neo confederate

oh

they tried to destroy my country

america is gay

long live the south

@Aggro Saxon AMERICA IS UNDER ATTACK

by rebel scum like you

confederates are democrats

lol you think the confederacy is still threatening America?

not really

but its still treasonous to like it

its like saying death to america

Fuck you, it's treasonous to not want to be readmitted into the British empire

rebel scum

lol they were states

we were a fucking territory

i have no problem with a territory seceding

but a state

an integrated part of your country

....

A state is supposed to be an anonymous entity, the point of a federation is that the central government derives its authority from the consent of the states

in a federation one cannot leave the ocuntry

Unless you want some kind of empire

*country

d i r e c t r u l e f r o m w a s h i n g t o n

thats why china wont let taiwan secede

and im ok with that

So your notion is based entirely on legal status?

i.e. if it's technically a state it can't secede?

if they share the same rights as the state

and they would need permission from the gov

winning war is an option

Well obviously no government would ever allow that

south sudan

imagine thinking sudan is a country

Fair enough, but it's not as though US politicians will allow it

the philipines us to be a territory

So?

now they arent

What's wrong with the south seceding?

1 they claimed us territories

(even if you dont include the south itself

like kentucky which majority wanted to stay

They'd probably want to go these days

they also did not hold referndum

So what? US democracy is representative.

so if you want to secede you need support from the peopel

otherwise you get a shit country

Well they voted in candidates who were pro-secession

not really secession happened quite fast

and most people were drafted into the rebel army

Anti-northern sentiment existed for some time

there is anti english sentiment

The north drafted people too mate, both sides were just desparate for soldiers

should scotland secede

Well they voted didn't they?

the southerners didnt

besides they had slaves

there could be no fair democracy

lol so basically all democracy prior to blacks having the vote was unfair, and every election was illegitimate.

yes

OK so the US is illegitimate

Anyone know of any pedophile hunting discord’s?

we didnt secede for slavery

we seceded over tea lol

We're nitpicking now. The US had a hundred years of elections where blacks didn't have the vote.
The US seceded so wealthy people i.e. not slaves could pay lower taxes. The slaves never voted on that.

@clex theres a group called "child porn" google them

Nice try

If the blacks had the choice they would have sticked with the British who were about to abolish slavery

i said thats the process for states not territories

blacks should be killed

wow

all you had to do was make america provinces

edge

and give us representation at parliment

lol

US didn't give blacks representation

america would look so much better if it was only white

So fucking there

Not that I care

@Aggro Saxon you kinda didnt either

shouldent have taken the slavessssss

until the 1800s

#antiangloaction

I'm not trying to argue that legitimacy is based on whether blacks have a say

You are

I don't give a shit

im arguing that a state cannot secede without a referendum

and consent

from the gov

not a territory

You were arguing that the politicians who supported secession were illegitimate in doing so because blacks didn't vote for them

correct by that time most countries aboloshed slavery

So what? The politicians were elected by the democratic system of the time. You appear to be making an argument based on legal legitimacy.

Now you've magically shifted the goalposts to moral legitimacy

i.e. being nice to blacks or something

no both are true

at the same time

Even when they are in conflict?

how so

it was established by that time slavery was wrong

and it was illegal

to secede

because they did not consent the governmetn

it was unilateral

Well an example is what we are discussing. Blacks didn't have the vote so legally they didn't factor into the consideration. But you're making a moral argument about how it was wrong that blacks didn't have the vote and using that to nullify the argument for secession

ok ill just get to the point

america is perfect

no one can leave

Enjoy your ZOG

unless gov says so

America is shit and will soon be a nonwhite country. It's based on shit values and much of it was built by christian cultists.

Enjoy your sinking ship

democracy isnt a christian idea

niether is secularism

Secularism is very Protestant

they did not invent it

Because they all keep disagreeing on bullshit so the only way a Protestant country can avoid collapse and infighting is secularism

the ottomans were more secular than the protestants !!!!\

Similar issues, they were dealing with lots of different religions

Basically the same as dealing with lots of Christian cults

also secularism by definition means there is no state religion

so its not christian

its not muslim

its not jewish

its not bhuddist

its not athiest

its agnostic

Yes, because the only way to avoid all the infighting is to adopt an individualistic approach where the state has no affiliation with religion.

so you want the government to tell you what to believe

You still find references to God strewn around though, so obviously America was Christian.

not in the constitution

nor delclaration of independence

I want the nation to share common values and beliefs. If there's disagreement on fundamental issues between groups of people, it's better they separate into their own communities and nations

Free deseret

(for example)

i believe the nation should agree on common values and beliefs such as nationalism and democracy

and capitalism

and we do

lol capitalism

Enjoy getting BTFOd by China

well jusr sabotage thier economy

State-sponsored economic sabotage? Doesn't sound very capitalistic to me.

ok make that protectionalism

Protectionism is perfectly logical, but I wouldn't count it as one of my core values.

I don't think protectionism is enough to unite a nation. Democracy is also essentially just a governmental structure, something that affects the state. Nationalism is empty without a concept of what your nation is.

our nation ARE democracy we are the BEST democracy we are a union from all the around the world our goals are to bring prosperity and live rich lives

Wow, your Boomerposting is impressive

they werent wrong

What the fuck is boomerposting

What he's doing

What is he doing?

Being patriotic/nationalistic?

America IS BLESB by GOD!!1 Are DEMOCRACY is the best in the WORLD,,, AMREN Borthers!!! If your not TRUE PATRIOt then kEEP SCROLLIN

one difference im dead serious

So are the patriotard Boomers that talk like that online

what are you a liberal

Lol no

you sound like it

No, it's just that these civic nationalist types are cringey as fuck

nah

im routing for assad

not really

Assad?

He attacked his own citizens

baathists ultimate goal is democracy

after they take over the arab world

Baathists are basically Arab fascism

🅱ased

they are nationalists

>When someone calls me a liberal

besides the opposition is freakin terrorists

you make me look left wing

how do you do it

Get redpilled by Evola

time and time again

it has been proven

the freer the economy the more money you have

Why is having more money the ultimate goal?

You can never satisfy greed

so we can have better lives

so we can feed our families

so we dont have to work

so our kids dont have to

I view a better life as not slaving away behind a desk my whole life getting depressed and unhealthy and having no connection to the wider society, only being a cog in the capitalist machine, another unit of production to be counted and measured purely in terms of how much wealth I can produce for my superiors

work harder get promoted

get a new job

Life is nothing but pleasure

Oh, so I can enter the next rotation of the cycle with slightly more wealth, and fewer years left of my life to live.

invest in stock

What do I do with the wealth? I acquire some material items that have now become the sole purpose in my life. I add yet more layers of artificiality and techno-isolation to my life that's already devoid of real community and relationships, any sense of belonging to the wider society other than that my produce will be counted among the aggregate national statistics

lol go become a hunter

live out in the wilderness

Much better lifestyle frankly, but hardly efficient and capitalistic

You get a sense of connection with your origins and the natural world, the life you would live is one in harmony with that of your ancestors. You can join a simple village community and get to know them and trust them personally. You form real human connections, not professional strategic relationships. You live as you were meant to live.

hm have you ever thought of the idea that acting in your own self-interest might just benefit the rest of society

Sure but not necessarily

the hells that mean

There are some actions that you may take that are in your interest and benefit the wider society, there are others that don't.

Becoming a thief may be in your interest, for example, but harms society.

well yes of course but on an economic basis it helps society

that is why we have laws

Theft?

no

we have laws to prevent theft

Ok, so what about economic exploitation?

It's similar to theft but not illegal

Such as overcharging someone for a house or a repair job